Point me to anyone on Lemmy supporting Trump or denying his role in the genocide and I promise I’ll give them an earful. But otherwise it would be like randomly screaming, “MURDERING PUPPIES IS BAD!” like chill, pretty sure we’re all on the same page about that. The difference is that there’s a bunch of people on here who think murdering puppies is fine if the person doing it has a (D) next to their name.
Either you are blind or don’t want to hear it. People have been calling out Trump for this genocide since day one. Heck, there’s hundreds of posts doing that right now on Lemmy
Exactly. Genocide Joe became an ampliganda slogan during the election. It’s completely justified to criticize Biden’s support for Israel. The problem is that wasn’t a valid distinction between him and Trump, given Trump’s prior support for Netanyahu.
In his first term, Trump removed restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. Netanyahu was so grateful, he named a settlement after Trump in Golan Heights. Trump also stated that “Israel should just finish the job, and stop recording videos” of their atrocities, saying they’re losing the PR war.
No one is defending Biden’s support of Israel. We’re saying that moniker was used to disengage voters, leading to Trump’s win, and ultimately the eradication of the West Bank in favor of a billionaire resort.
You’re making a lot of assumptions about me matey.
It’s more of an observation. A few months ago it was all Genocide Joe this, Genocide Joe that, Genocide Joe the other, and now that the war has resumed with the USA having released more powerful bombs that Joe was holding back it’s somewhat surprising that there apparently hasn’t been a peep from anyone. But as you say, if you are seeing it then maybe my feed is too well filtered.
I’m confused. Why does seeing “Genocide Joe” and not seeing “Genocide Don” mean there’s a problem with my moral compass? How exactly am I at fault for other people not posting stuff?
Let me help you. No one saying Genocide Bibi. Because they are “public” about their goal. Joe on the other hand, “pretend” about stopping them but at the same time allowing them to commit war crime and blocking all votes in the us.
So yes no need to say Genocide Trump because he doesnt even hide.
I imagine this is a rhetorical question. I am fairly certain most of those “people” if you want to call them that were not actual people, and those who were were groomed and misled into parroting those talking points to weaken something closer to “democratic” leadership, and strengthen the hand of those who are ready to move past democracy and all its pesky laws that they have to navigate in their subjugation of all but the ultra wealthy. I imagine they are the same “people” who would classify Sanders as a “massive disappointment”.
Exactly. I’m in no way defending Biden’s handling of Israel, but it was never a question that he was the lesser of two evils for Palestinians at the polls.
Welcome to FPTP elections. Make a choice between bad and worse or the choice will be made for you. You will not be given an ideal option. Be an adult and pick the one that will cause less damage or watch the nation burn from your apathy.
Not at all. I’m just aware that whenever people criticized Biden about Israel, they never had any interest in looking Trump’s relationship with Bibi. He has an Israeli settlement named after him in Golan Heights as gratitude for removing restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory, or that he said “Israel should just finish the job and stop recording all the videos” of their atrocities.
If you’re going to shout GeNoCiDe JoE during election season and tell people not to vote for him, you should finish the sentiment with the truth, that abstaining from the election would result in Trump winning, which is exactly what happened.
Mate, I get exactly what your throwing down. This whole thread is wild. The disconnect is absurd. I feel like folks are trolling? I honestly am baffled.
I keep wondering why the “Genocide Joe” folk aren’t now screeching about “Genocide Donald”.
Point me to anyone on Lemmy supporting Trump or denying his role in the genocide and I promise I’ll give them an earful. But otherwise it would be like randomly screaming, “MURDERING PUPPIES IS BAD!” like chill, pretty sure we’re all on the same page about that. The difference is that there’s a bunch of people on here who think murdering puppies is fine if the person doing it has a (D) next to their name.
Either you are blind or don’t want to hear it. People have been calling out Trump for this genocide since day one. Heck, there’s hundreds of posts doing that right now on Lemmy
Neither of those assumptions are true. Perhaps I’m just too good at blocking this stuff. The only “genocide Don” stuff I’ve seen is in my own posts.
So your grudge isn’t about people calling out the genocide? It is specifically about the “genocide joe” moniker?
Exactly. Genocide Joe became an ampliganda slogan during the election. It’s completely justified to criticize Biden’s support for Israel. The problem is that wasn’t a valid distinction between him and Trump, given Trump’s prior support for Netanyahu.
In his first term, Trump removed restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. Netanyahu was so grateful, he named a settlement after Trump in Golan Heights. Trump also stated that “Israel should just finish the job, and stop recording videos” of their atrocities, saying they’re losing the PR war.
No one is defending Biden’s support of Israel. We’re saying that moniker was used to disengage voters, leading to Trump’s win, and ultimately the eradication of the West Bank in favor of a billionaire resort.
You’re making a lot of assumptions about me matey.
It’s more of an observation. A few months ago it was all Genocide Joe this, Genocide Joe that, Genocide Joe the other, and now that the war has resumed with the USA having released more powerful bombs that Joe was holding back it’s somewhat surprising that there apparently hasn’t been a peep from anyone. But as you say, if you are seeing it then maybe my feed is too well filtered.
“more powerful bombs that Joe was holding back” - youre right, the Democrat was the Good Guy ALL ALONG
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You should consider entering the Olympics. With mental leaps that big you’re sure to win a medal.
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I’m confused. Why does seeing “Genocide Joe” and not seeing “Genocide Don” mean there’s a problem with my moral compass? How exactly am I at fault for other people not posting stuff?
Let me help you. No one saying Genocide Bibi. Because they are “public” about their goal. Joe on the other hand, “pretend” about stopping them but at the same time allowing them to commit war crime and blocking all votes in the us.
So yes no need to say Genocide Trump because he doesnt even hide.
You are putting way too much effort into explaining people being used for ampliganda.
Regardless of who would get elected, weapons would flow into israel.
Saying Genocide Joe felt good. Because it was designed to feel good. Like every piece of ampliganda.
Get over it.
I imagine this is a rhetorical question. I am fairly certain most of those “people” if you want to call them that were not actual people, and those who were were groomed and misled into parroting those talking points to weaken something closer to “democratic” leadership, and strengthen the hand of those who are ready to move past democracy and all its pesky laws that they have to navigate in their subjugation of all but the ultra wealthy. I imagine they are the same “people” who would classify Sanders as a “massive disappointment”.
They were throwing a wedge to get Trump elected. We all knew it. Beware the same tactics before every election. They do it because it works.
For people downvoting this.
Genocide Joe uses the same mechanic as DEI, or MAGA. It is an ampliganda slogan.
It was used for a political purpose. Elections.
Yall need to realize this and move on.
Exactly. I’m in no way defending Biden’s handling of Israel, but it was never a question that he was the lesser of two evils for Palestinians at the polls.
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LOL
Totally, Jan.
Are you for real? You think Trump is better for Palestinians?
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Welcome to FPTP elections. Make a choice between bad and worse or the choice will be made for you. You will not be given an ideal option. Be an adult and pick the one that will cause less damage or watch the nation burn from your apathy.
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I think you’re all gaslighting yourselves on this issue. Your opinion changes based on which team’s guy is in charge.
Not at all. I’m just aware that whenever people criticized Biden about Israel, they never had any interest in looking Trump’s relationship with Bibi. He has an Israeli settlement named after him in Golan Heights as gratitude for removing restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory, or that he said “Israel should just finish the job and stop recording all the videos” of their atrocities.
If you’re going to shout GeNoCiDe JoE during election season and tell people not to vote for him, you should finish the sentiment with the truth, that abstaining from the election would result in Trump winning, which is exactly what happened.
Mate, I get exactly what your throwing down. This whole thread is wild. The disconnect is absurd. I feel like folks are trolling? I honestly am baffled.
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