Reminder this is only for offensive weapons. Sanders has no problem sending interceptors to defend the Nazis against any repercussions for their crimes.
And Sanders still refuses to call it a genocide.
And Sanders recently voted to block all funding to the Gazan government and do everything possible to overthrow them.
I agree there is a strong difference between genocide and ethnic cleansing but in a world where many countries, %100 of republicans and %90 of democrats are calling this a “right to defend”, ethnic cleansing clearly points out what the main motivation is.
And also crucially he says the state of Israel. Sure Israel is full of extreme right nationalists that endorse this war. But not all of them do, and with good conscience a politician who supports peace and unity cannot point fingers at a totality of a population. The right thing to do is point the finger at warmongering states.
The resolution you stated, about stopping support to Hamas…Unfortunately I agree it is a resolution aimed at enabling Israel in the guise of punishing a terrorist organization. Had it really been a resolution that aimed at what it said it would do, I would not see a problem with it. To me it seems Hamas is an organisation that feeds off on the traumatic experiences of a population due to years of torture and genocide by the Israeli state. It is a terrorist organization (like the state of Israel), only less powerful hence less impactful. I find it hard to believe that had it been more powerful, it would follow a very peaceful path. Any solution that aims at expulsion of one of the populations from that area, be it Palestinians or Israelis will keep perpetuating this ethnic cleansing war. And as the war keeps going on, the strong side will commit genocide.
I can understand why people living in Palestine would want to support Hamas, they have seen their loved ones, homes and lives blown to pieces by Israel, neighbours, friends and relatives terrorised by maniacal settlers. But it is what it is, another player in the region reaching for power feeding of people’s justified desire for revenge. But the rest of the world shouldn’t be so eager to support it. Nor should they be so eager to stamp an influential politician who seems to be genuinely looking for peace in the middle east. You may call his methods and statements not forceful enough but compared to %90 of the democrats and all the republicans you are on the same side with him by a wide margin.
Jesus Christ, man, flawed as they are they are the best we’ve actually got elected at all. How about we ADD TO THEM with more good and better people instead of trying to throw them in the trash so they can be replaced by more Schumers and Rubins?
If you pro-palestinian folks could get out of your own way for one second perhaps you could accomplish something beyond helping republicans win and then getting arrested and/or deported.
I mean I’m just saying, you’re getting your ass kicked and yet you’re acting like you get to demand adherence to a utopian vision of what American policy should look like. You understand you have no power right? Maybe try helping your allies that do.
Reminder this is only for offensive weapons. Sanders has no problem sending interceptors to defend the Nazis against any repercussions for their crimes.
And Sanders still refuses to call it a genocide.
And Sanders recently voted to block all funding to the Gazan government and do everything possible to overthrow them.
He did call it ethnic cleansing and a war crime:
https://x.com/SenSanders/status/1905328082170347696
What was the vote on blocking funding to the Gazan government, could not find it online?
Not the word genocide crucially. Also:
Notice how Bernazi blames Netanyahu not Israel. And history starts on October 7. This despicable man will not stop denouncing the resistance.
This is the resolution:
Here is a post the explaining the resolution Bernie voted for; to endorse Israel invading Gaza again by calling everything Hamas https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1901613006875725952
I agree there is a strong difference between genocide and ethnic cleansing but in a world where many countries, %100 of republicans and %90 of democrats are calling this a “right to defend”, ethnic cleansing clearly points out what the main motivation is.
And also crucially he says the state of Israel. Sure Israel is full of extreme right nationalists that endorse this war. But not all of them do, and with good conscience a politician who supports peace and unity cannot point fingers at a totality of a population. The right thing to do is point the finger at warmongering states.
The resolution you stated, about stopping support to Hamas…Unfortunately I agree it is a resolution aimed at enabling Israel in the guise of punishing a terrorist organization. Had it really been a resolution that aimed at what it said it would do, I would not see a problem with it. To me it seems Hamas is an organisation that feeds off on the traumatic experiences of a population due to years of torture and genocide by the Israeli state. It is a terrorist organization (like the state of Israel), only less powerful hence less impactful. I find it hard to believe that had it been more powerful, it would follow a very peaceful path. Any solution that aims at expulsion of one of the populations from that area, be it Palestinians or Israelis will keep perpetuating this ethnic cleansing war. And as the war keeps going on, the strong side will commit genocide.
I can understand why people living in Palestine would want to support Hamas, they have seen their loved ones, homes and lives blown to pieces by Israel, neighbours, friends and relatives terrorised by maniacal settlers. But it is what it is, another player in the region reaching for power feeding of people’s justified desire for revenge. But the rest of the world shouldn’t be so eager to support it. Nor should they be so eager to stamp an influential politician who seems to be genuinely looking for peace in the middle east. You may call his methods and statements not forceful enough but compared to %90 of the democrats and all the republicans you are on the same side with him by a wide margin.
Armed struggle for the liberation of a people is not “revenge”. This is akin to calling Nelson Mandela a vengeful evil man.
Bernie has compromised on far too much to be compromised with. The fact that he is still supporting Israel to this very day says enough.
Well that’s disappointing.
Sanders is a massive disappointment people should really move on from him. AOC as well.
Jesus Christ, man, flawed as they are they are the best we’ve actually got elected at all. How about we ADD TO THEM with more good and better people instead of trying to throw them in the trash so they can be replaced by more Schumers and Rubins?
Because you need to draw a red line somewhere as a starting point and Bernie has already crossed it.
She really lost my support carrying water for genocide.
I’m sure you know more than me about mistakes Bernie has made, but I don’t really understand comments like this.
I believe you should never idolize any politician, and you should similarly distrust all politicians.
If you pro-palestinian folks could get out of your own way for one second perhaps you could accomplish something beyond helping republicans win and then getting arrested and/or deported.
I mean I’m just saying, you’re getting your ass kicked and yet you’re acting like you get to demand adherence to a utopian vision of what American policy should look like. You understand you have no power right? Maybe try helping your allies that do.
If your politicians do not care about brown people getting genocided then they will not care about you either.
Nice username by the way.