Sanders is one of the most popular politicians in the US, and his political analysis and messaging remain as relevant and compelling as ever. But while his Tour to Fight Oligarchy is inspiring and important, the broad left badly needs a political vision that goes beyond Sanders.

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      16 days ago

      We need a progressive takeover of the democratic party. The MAGAs tranformed the republican party in what 10 years?

      If we have midterms it has to start then.

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      17 days ago

      I think the language is funky. They’re saying beyond, like take his ideas and go even further, not move away from Bernie. They want more and better of him.

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    17 days ago

    Centrists need to stop telling leftists what to do and what is good for them or they’re going to keep on losing elections.

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      17 days ago

      It’s not coming from a centrist in this case: the article is written by someone who argues Bernie is insufficiently left.

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          I mean they are not the same. Corbyn is the real deal, Bernie is a sellout at best, now a sheepdog for the establishment keeping the voters runnung away to 3rd parties.
          No surprise one of them got framed and the other one is still around.
          Bernie can have his platform to do his show to give their corporate party a progressive face, not the 3rd party candidates who get sabotaged by the Dems and which they try to get of the ballots by lawsuits or any way possible.
          They will fight them harder than republicans.
          If you want to compare him to UK politics he would be a labour politician.
          All talk about being for the people yet doing the opposite.

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              Why TF do you need mainstream politicians?
              3rd party is the only option, or stay in the endless loop like you’ve been doing for a few centuries now

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                Because the system is rigged against 3rd Parties, the Dems and the GOP have worked hard over the decades to make it all but impossible for 3rd Parties to get on ballots. For example, it can vary from state to state the amount, but 3rd party candidates need to get thousands of signatures in each of the counties they want to have their name on the ballot in. Meanwhile the Dems and GOP have gotten state laws passed that automatically put Dem and GOP candidates on the ballots like an reward for voter involvement in the previous election.

                Getting on the ballots at all for 3rd parties costs a lot of money and time to do. It’s generally why you only really see 3rd parties pop up for the presidential election, which just sort of becomes a joke because it’s usually a nutter like Jill Stein.

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                  a nutter like Jill Stein

                  While there are better ones and I don’t really follow her, there’s no doubt she’s far better than any of the imperialist genociding psychopaths both sides of your uniparty regime endorse.
                  What makes her a nutter eactly?

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    16 days ago

    Almost like some sort of grassroots 3rd party that is literally too radical of an idea for you fools in this community who argued Biden (and Harris) was somehow more leftist than Obama.

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      16 days ago

      Yes, let’s lose worse.

      Without ranked choice voting, the only option is to fix it from within.

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        16 days ago

        RCV is not something the two party system would willingly allow to occur in enough states to matter, and it’s not a base requirement for a 3rd party to succeed.

        Pakistan doesn’t have RCV, it took them 20 years which included a 10 year military dictatorship and 10 years of faked paper ballots and miscounts. No way the US would need more than that considering we don’t have massive issues involving voter fraud.

        I’m sick of people disregarding 3rd party with what is essentially a flawed argument of the two party system used to convince people 3rd parties are impossible.

        You would be surprised at the amount of increased turnout from the nonvoters group that would gain wins in an FPTP system despite the disadvantage.