Bernie Sanders has been repeatedly uttering the phrase “Israel has a right to defend itself” on his “Fighting Oligarchy” tour with Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, which in the year 2025 can only be interpreted as blatant genocide apologia.

Israel does not have “a right to defend itself” against an occupied population in a giant concentration camp. Under international law it has a right to end the occupation, and that’s it. “Israel has a right to defend itself” is just a slogan people say when they want to justify supplying an ongoing genocide.

Sanders has been mixing his support for Israel in with periodic criticisms of Netanyahu and the Israeli government’s actions in Gaza, always taking care to make his criticisms about the behavior of Israel’s current leadership and not the nature of the racist apartheid state itself.

Sanders is doing this for two reasons. Firstly, he is working to galvanize a big tent inclusive coalition of Democrats in opposition to Trump, and he wants that big tent to include people who think genocide is bad and people who think genocide is fine. He doesn’t want to offend the pro-genocide liberals.

Secondly, Sanders is doing this because he himself is a Zionist. Like other liberal Zionists, Bernie Sanders upholds a vision of an Israel that has never, ever existed: one which remains an ethnostate dominated by Jews, but which conducts itself in a kind and just manner, without constantly murdering and abusing Palestinians.

This iteration of the state of Israel is a fiction. An imaginary fantasyland, like Narnia. Everything about Israel is stacked against the possibility of such a status quo ever emerging, and Israel has always done everything it can to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state. By pretending it is possible to have the Zionist entity and also have peace and justice, liberal Zionists help manufacture public consent for continuing to feed weapons to the genocidal apartheid state of Israel.

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    You linked a list of Jewish organisations, not Israeli. The fact that some of them happen to be Israeli doesn’t change that. You can’t link a list of Jewish organizations in general as evidence of a point about Israel specifically.

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      Are you dense?

      It’s a list of Jewish Anti-genocide organisations, which is literally the wording I used when I posted the link, perhaps you’re projecting as you’re being disingenuous.

      Then that list contains groups of Jewish people against genocide in various countries around the world, some of which so happen to be in Israel.

      So, it would appear you’re dense. If you’re ever in the UK I would love to sit down and we could discuss this in person because I find your behaviour and reasoning quite staggering.

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            What claim? You just linked a list of Jewish organizations in general as representative of Israel specifically, what exactly was your point, Nazi?

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              No. The other person said that all Israeli’s were Zionist. I posted a link with Israeli organisations of Israeli people who are anti-Zionist.

              So just refuting their generalisations.

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                No, you posted a lost of Jewish organisations, that was literally my point, a point that you agreed with a few posts ago

                This is about the level of dishonesty I expect from Nazis