Yeah, it’s not the first time I see utter disdain (to the point of mods getting involved) in lefty spaces for suggesting the influence of Russian propaganda in certain kinds of talking points, or even the mere existence of it at all.

I remember on Reddit on r/GreenAndPleasant they banned me for pushing back to a conspiracy-brained guy who talked like a literal nazi bot, who said the only reason we hate Putin is that we’ve been primed by Western propaganda. So I showed him with primary sources from their own prime time TV, sidestepping Western propaganda altogether, how genocidal their attitude towards Ukraine (and other neighbors) really is. Turns out that was a no-no. I wonder if I had said Putin is good — something tells me they would have banned me all the same because direct defense of Putin is literally Russian propaganda, they just want to cultivate the idea that suspecting Russian propaganda is paranoia brought about by Western propaganda brainwashing.