i wonder what y’all have to say about this

  • HalfSalesman@lemm.ee
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    15 hours ago

    Sorry for the late response, I only have access to this account at work.

    I hope I haven’t dampened your day. That wasn’t my intent.

    No worries, you haven’t. A little bit of push back to my ideas is honestly something I find motivating. Usually other people grow tired of it.

    You made statements that you didn’t like responsibilities of society

    You can’t reasonably expect the benefits of society (readily available warmth and food) without interacting with it though.

    My point wasn’t that I did not personally like the responsibilities. I shouldn’t have used “expect me” because that implies this is more personal than it is (my bad). Its that I resent that they exist at all for anyone. Further, that we live in a society that wants individuals forcefully born within it to sacrifice themselves for said society, and self imposed exile is not an escape from this injustice. My individual choices (lacking the power to change things on a society level) cannot permit a true escape from that.

    Now, extrapolating this to an actual actionable belief to today’s world would be that I think society should operate as if it serves each individual, not that individuals ought to serve society by default. And we have the technology and logistical capacity to do that.

    Okay, fine. There’s no problem with that as an abstract concept as someone trying to apply reason to randomness (or order if you see it that way instead). Is that an actionable ethos though? Does your theory have any practical application in your own life? Does it lead you to action (or inaction)? It certainly doesn’t have to, but I’m not sure how useful it is as a guiding principle of understanding the universe if it doesn’t.

    It means that no individual can be held fully responsible for their actions and we should structure society purely around consequences, like harm reduction and maximizing contentment.

    The results of this belief in my own personal life, I generally have held that it is irrational to hate someone and for a long while that gave me a lot of patience with people I knew for their transgressions or moral failures.

    Admittedly, I’ve faltered in my patience as of late due to the state of the world. A more emotionally hedonistic attitude has taken hold in me.

    I’ll be honest, I have serious concerns for you and what may have happened to you for you to arrive at that conclusion.

    Lots of debate and research regarding philosophy, resulting in a lot of critical thinking happened to me. A ruthless desire to get to the truth of reality, no matter how much it hurts.

    If I were to guess if anything emotional fueled those desires, it was a desire to feel self worth. I thought I was an idiot for most of my early life and thought everyone else around me had a grip on practical life things. That I would have to fake my way through life and perpetually be in a state of imposter syndrome. Tends to make you prefer spending all your time reading and debating on the internet. (and playing video games)

    After a long period of harsh self judgement and self loathing over being stupid, I realized most other people were somehow worse. So now I’m a terrified and alienated egotistical autist. I’d rather be the village idiot that I thought I was.