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    Australia is the source of many of the USAs problems. This won’t last long, or have any positive changes.

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          Ahhhhh. While I do hate that man I wouldn’t blame Australia for him. Complete bastards can arise from every nationality.

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              He’s South African who holds a dual citizenship. And Canada are putting his citizenship on a bill with a petition to have it taken away for potential of siding with and motivating someone who is committing war crimes against the safety of Canada.

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            I hear you, but as someone who has seen my country torn apart by Murdoch and his propaganda empire, I think the OC’s statement is far more fair than the up/down votes they have received. 🤷‍♂️

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              Nah fuck that noise. Dude might be Australian but he went to the country that really encouraged his vileness. He didn’t learn all that shite in oz. Same thing is happening with musk, not born in the US but goes there because thats the home of the greed and power hunger. All the worlds rich and vile go there or someplace as vile.

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              He owns our media too, we just don’t believe everything we’re told at face value it seems. The media was very much in favour of the liberals (our right wing party) this election and it’s shaping up to be their worst ever result in an election.

              Not to mention he gave up his Australian citizenship in 1985. 40 years ago.

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              Lumping demographics together because of the actions of a few or just one guy isn’t something I’m comfortable with.

              Hell Canada would like to see our country collapse because our senile orange criminal jackass president decided to brain fart talk about annexing them and I rather not be lumped into that crowd.

              I miss being on friendly terms with our allies and I don’t want to think ill of their peoples.

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                We don’t want to see the US collapse. We want to punish the aggression against us. If Trump were to disappear overnight, and efforts were made to repair the relationship between our countries, I think it would relatively quickly go back to a semblance of normality, but surely there would always be some hesitation, knowing that all it takes to fuck it all up is another bad election which could happen at any time.

                We don’t hate America, we hate the current state of it. In the same way that sanctions work against governments that are doing awful things, we’re all, as a collective, putting efforts into trying to make our aggressors face consequences.

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                  I hope Canada takes every necessary step to ensure its people remain safe and prosper.

                  Please remember that the American agressors are a minority and literal hundreds of millions of United States residents would rather just be on good terms with Canada.

                  I personally wish my countrymen would stop being so racist against Mexico.

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                    enough people voted him in and gave him power. And another 3rd were apathetic enough to step aside and let that happen. So it’s not so much a minority causing WWIII here. If it were : we’d be congratulating you on your win with Kamala rn.

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          The Americans had it coming after the coup they pulled off on Whitlam.

          Bloodless or not the USA can get fucked.

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            Why do you want me to get fucked over?

            I have never done anything to you. Considering the amount of struggle I have dealt with living in American society I can tell you right now I didn’t benefit from that or most evil actions those with power in my country have undertaken.

            Do I get to blame all Australians for the death of the Great Barrier Reef? No, that would be ridiculous because most Australians aren’t the owners of mineral extracting corporations.

            I want nothing but peace and prosperity for the people of Australia and I wished they had the same feelings for me.

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              Are you the USA? At this point I’m mostly indifferent to the suffering of US citizens though I do relish seeing the victims of leopards eating faces.

              Also I wouldn’t be so quick to use the Great Barrier Reef as an example, as those mineral extracting corporations are why the CIA did their coup on Whitlam.

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                I’m a citizen of the USA because I was born here. I voted for Democrats every single election since I turned 18, the leopards didn’t eat my face they slit my throat.

                You’re talking to someone that is currently suffering. I’m fucking trying to stave off poverty. What is wrong with you? The people of the United States are not an ambiguous block that represents a body politic, they’re flesh and blood people.

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                  So? You’re a citizen but you are not the USA.

                  Without the USA’s interference my country could have a sovreign wealth fund over double the size of Norways.

                  So I guess you could say I’ve been angry about the intereference with my country but now I’m laughing as the US tears itself apart. It feels like some small consolation prize for my country being robbed.

                  Not everything is about you, which I’m sure is just shocking because Americans always think they’re the centre of the universe.

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                    When the day comes when you’re desperate and need help I hope people don’t laugh in your face like you have done to me this day.

                    In my life I have been hungry, I have been homeless, and I have been sick without access to affordable healthcare. I’m now an old man that has to fight those evils again instead of saving for retirement. You’re truly fortunate if that has never happened to you.

                    Have you ever considered not taking pleasure in the suffering of others?

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      Look, you’re not wrong that we did you (and the rest of the world) pretty dirty with Rupert Murdoch and I do apologise on our behalf for that - but the USA’s problems are it’s own shitty foundations; and have been around longer than we’ve been founded (re: colonised).

      You do realise he took over 99% of our news/media outlets as his own personal mouth piece, before he ever came your way? We didn’t just vote in a Trump though, quite the opposite to be honest, so…uh…hm.

      Might wanna’ dig a lil’ deeper