That’s not how it works. If the conservatives can’t get a majority, the liberals can form a minority government with the NDP or greens. This is what our government currently looks like and it got us dental healthcare. Minority governments can be very effective at creating social change, especially when most Canadians have to be dragged kicking and screaming into policies that benefit them.
Ok, you are telling me the most basic shit like it’s news. I know what a minority government is, I just don’t think the NDP has done anything worthy and the Green party is a wreck, so I think most seats will go either blue or red with the bloc being the only party that might have a chance in hell of pulling enough seats to play spoiler and become the swing votes in Parliament.
See Parliament after the 2006 election, except replace Jack Layton with Singh, i.e. maybe two seats of they’re lucky
He’s explaining basic shit to you because what you’re saying makes people think you need basic shit explained to you. He wasn’t even being a dick about it. I have no such qualms about being a dick.
Also given the projected seats right now, your “point” about “strategic voting” just makes you seem kind of dumb. The only Green candidate worth a damn is Clancy, polling behind the Liberal party in her riding, and the party of Tommy Douglas is looking at six MPs or less.
It’s a two horse race and it’s looking like it will not be close, so whether you vote for Santa Claus or your grandad, there will be three recognized parties at the most post-election, LPC, CPC and BQ, and the latter two almost certainly won’t have the votes to make a difference anyway.
Understand that in some ridings, like mine, the liberal candidate is not fucking viable because the only candidates people have ever voted for by a large margin are conservative or NDP. My riding gets like 1% tops liberal vote. So if I vote liberal here, I might as well be voting conservative because there is zero chance the liberal will get in here. This is such simple shit that I have second hand embarrassment for you for having to explain this.
Oh, I understand, I also understand that no NDP ridings are safe, no Green ridings are safe, and the BQ will almost certainly be the swing vote of either the Conservatives or Liberals gain a minority.
So there are three options:
Liberal majority
Liberal minority where Quebec has oversize influence
Conservative minority where Quebec has oversize influence
I would not be surprised in the least if the only seat to go Green is May’s, and I wouldn’t even bet on that. I would not take for granted that Singh holds his seat either, and I would predict maybe two or three will hold on.
This one will be polarizing, and I think this one will be a two-horse race with Quebec taking third and precious little left over for anyone else.
I fully understand Canadian politics, but whatever hot take “strategic voting” opinion you have is meaningless if the ridings are polarized. There is a reason the NDP is dropping to the brink of non-party status. They aren’t going to be an option for anyone’s “strategic vote”. That works occasionally but this is not one of those years. For the vast majority of the country, it’ll be red, blue, or a wasted ballot, even in traditional NDP or Green ridings.
And you’re basing this on “I have a feeling” because there is not any hard data on this and I’m going to assume you aren’t psychic. And if you try to say polls to me when they’ve been comically wrong and biased in every election in Canada since, like, 2000, I’m just going to assume you are a moron and not worth talking to further.
Either way you slice it, throwing a vote at the NDP or Greens and staying home to file your nails is about the same thing. Your vote could help the NDP to… lose official party status, or if your heroic strategy fails the CPC will have a pointless number of seats anyway because they are about to be obliterated by the Liberal Party. I know I know, it’s exhausting that your point has to be re-explained yet again, right?
Also, speaking of embarrassing, saying that polls are not to be trusted while also saying that you should vote for a third party because the polls say they might win in your riding is a hilarious bit of cognitive dissonance. Thank you for brightening a drab Monday morning with that.
Right, I’ll take your bets on NDP, BQ or Green winning the election.
That’s not how it works. If the conservatives can’t get a majority, the liberals can form a minority government with the NDP or greens. This is what our government currently looks like and it got us dental healthcare. Minority governments can be very effective at creating social change, especially when most Canadians have to be dragged kicking and screaming into policies that benefit them.
Ok, you are telling me the most basic shit like it’s news. I know what a minority government is, I just don’t think the NDP has done anything worthy and the Green party is a wreck, so I think most seats will go either blue or red with the bloc being the only party that might have a chance in hell of pulling enough seats to play spoiler and become the swing votes in Parliament.
See Parliament after the 2006 election, except replace Jack Layton with Singh, i.e. maybe two seats of they’re lucky
He’s explaining basic shit to you because what you’re saying makes people think you need basic shit explained to you. He wasn’t even being a dick about it. I have no such qualms about being a dick.
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Sexist!
Also given the projected seats right now, your “point” about “strategic voting” just makes you seem kind of dumb. The only Green candidate worth a damn is Clancy, polling behind the Liberal party in her riding, and the party of Tommy Douglas is looking at six MPs or less.
It’s a two horse race and it’s looking like it will not be close, so whether you vote for Santa Claus or your grandad, there will be three recognized parties at the most post-election, LPC, CPC and BQ, and the latter two almost certainly won’t have the votes to make a difference anyway.
Understand that in some ridings, like mine, the liberal candidate is not fucking viable because the only candidates people have ever voted for by a large margin are conservative or NDP. My riding gets like 1% tops liberal vote. So if I vote liberal here, I might as well be voting conservative because there is zero chance the liberal will get in here. This is such simple shit that I have second hand embarrassment for you for having to explain this.
That’s not how our voting system works. Why do so many Canadians comically not understand how our voting system works?
Oh, I understand, I also understand that no NDP ridings are safe, no Green ridings are safe, and the BQ will almost certainly be the swing vote of either the Conservatives or Liberals gain a minority.
So there are three options:
Liberal majority Liberal minority where Quebec has oversize influence Conservative minority where Quebec has oversize influence
I would not be surprised in the least if the only seat to go Green is May’s, and I wouldn’t even bet on that. I would not take for granted that Singh holds his seat either, and I would predict maybe two or three will hold on.
This one will be polarizing, and I think this one will be a two-horse race with Quebec taking third and precious little left over for anyone else.
Okay so you don’t understand what I was saying or how this whole thing works. This is absolutely exhausting.
I fully understand Canadian politics, but whatever hot take “strategic voting” opinion you have is meaningless if the ridings are polarized. There is a reason the NDP is dropping to the brink of non-party status. They aren’t going to be an option for anyone’s “strategic vote”. That works occasionally but this is not one of those years. For the vast majority of the country, it’ll be red, blue, or a wasted ballot, even in traditional NDP or Green ridings.
And you’re basing this on “I have a feeling” because there is not any hard data on this and I’m going to assume you aren’t psychic. And if you try to say polls to me when they’ve been comically wrong and biased in every election in Canada since, like, 2000, I’m just going to assume you are a moron and not worth talking to further.
Either way you slice it, throwing a vote at the NDP or Greens and staying home to file your nails is about the same thing. Your vote could help the NDP to… lose official party status, or if your heroic strategy fails the CPC will have a pointless number of seats anyway because they are about to be obliterated by the Liberal Party. I know I know, it’s exhausting that your point has to be re-explained yet again, right?
Also, speaking of embarrassing, saying that polls are not to be trusted while also saying that you should vote for a third party because the polls say they might win in your riding is a hilarious bit of cognitive dissonance. Thank you for brightening a drab Monday morning with that.
No, I did not say the polls, I said that they get 1% of the vote here every election. Reading comprehension isn’t your thing, is it?
Comprehending why you’re still replying to this thread isn’t my thing either
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