cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27368980

I am curious if the majority of leftist people don’t actually want children haha. There doesn’t seem to be any studies about it, but my convos with leftists is that most don’t seem to want to have children either for the uncertainty of the future or because they are too expensive or because it wouldn’t give them too much time to organize or whatever other reason that I forgot about.

I personally lean on not having children because I have been laid off of several jobs and having someone financially dependent to me scares the shit out of me and would put my stress levels through the roof.

  • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
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    13 days ago

    I live in a country that according to a study is the nr 1 in outsourcing their children.
    Nanny, babysits, daycare, etc… Parents have less and less time to raise them in our performance-work-oriented societies.
    Even if they could and have the time, it is also known they only have a minor part of shaping them.
    Outside factors combined, school, their friends and worse of all social media have a bigger impact.
    And I see those ‘parents’ all the time, proud of how they’re raising a child while both having successful carreers.
    These people wake their kids and see them again when they put them to bed.
    On top of that I glanced over an article recently (since I have no kids) about those children that get little attention from their parents.
    A lot of mental problems later and even a substantial rise in percentage of psychopats.

  • aguasemgas@lemmy.eco.brPortuguês
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    14 days ago

    I am 22 and at the moment I don’t mind having 1 in a fewer years, but definitely not gonna be in the next 4 years, since I feel the world gonna change a lot.

  • Fleppensteyn@feddit.nl
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    13 days ago

    People that don’t want children usually think of the potential wellbeing of a future human. People that do want children, usually do so for selfish reasons. It makes sense people who think of environment or other people are more lefties.

    • Bloomcole@lemmy.ml
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      13 days ago

      I agree, but in a way everything we do is for selfish reasons.
      An avg of 2.1 children can be had per couple and it will not grow the population.
      I say that is OK.

      • Fleppensteyn@feddit.nl
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        13 days ago

        Population growth is not my main concern. If I have to live in a filthy city, work full-time and barely have money to support myself, I don’t see why I should consider having a child.

        • vvilld@lemmy.world
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          13 days ago

          This completely contradicts your earlier point:

          People that don’t want children usually think of the potential wellbeing of a future human. People that do want children, usually do so for selfish reasons.

          Are you choosing to not have kids (which is a perfectly fine and morally defensible decision to make) because you’re thinking of the potential wellbeing of a future human, or for the selfish reason that it would make your socioeconomic situation more difficult?

          Again, simply saying “I just don’t want to have kids” is perfectly fine. But you tried to moralize it by saying people who do have kids are selfish and those who don’t are altruistic. Yet the reason you gave for not having kids was selfish.

  • swelter_spark@reddthat.comEnglish
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    13 days ago

    I don’t have kids because I’ve never especially liked them, and I think it’s morally wrong to have kids if you don’t like or want them.