Anytime someone mentions veganism, there has to be a discussion on plants. Interesting how you suddenly care about vegetables.

Vegetables are not sentient, and even if they were, it requires fewer plants if you eat them directly instead of feeding them to an animal first for years, and then killing the animal.

I’m actually not interested in talking to you, but perhaps someone will read this and realize how absurd it is to compare chopping vegetables to slicing the throat of an animal.

Should we, according to you, grant the same amount of ethical consideration to a tomato as to a cat/pig/bird/etc? Do you actually believe there is a sentient being in a plant, or a rock for that matter?

Our best scientific understanding is that a CNS is essential for sentience, and there is no serious evidence support plant sentience. You can play the philospher and argue this, but then technically you can’t prove human sentience outside your own (if that). Should we go kill humans?

Anyway. I see you’re not serious in this conversation and are just trolling. Have a good one.

What do you mean? You think there is no supply demand at play in food production?

Animal suffering and veganism are deeply intertwined topics. By analogy, would you be this mad at someone raising issue with the catholic church on a news article about child abuse by priests?

If you are genuinely interested in the vegan position, I’d happily answer (or you could have used a search engine and gotten millions of answers). Something tells me you’re not being genuine in your motivation.

In short: there is no sentience and thus, no capacity for suffering inside plants as far as we know based on scientific consensus. Animals do have this. Hence why I care about taking a knife to an animals throat and slicing it, and not about chopping a carrot.

Even if you believe for whatever bum fuck spiritualist reason that plants can suffer, you can minimize plant usage by going vegan. Keeping all those farm animals alive requires (plantbased) feed, so cutting out the middle man reduces the number of plants wasted.

Yep. Thanks for agreeing.

News article shows poor treatment of animals because people want to eat them, or the eggs they lay. Commenter says “gee, if we didnt ask for those things this wouldn’t happen”. Enlightened lemmy users downvote. Cool.