Wild. I’ve read starship troopers but didn’t know all this about him.

The general online labeling of Heinlein as a kind of fascism idealizer (due to the popularity of that book) begins to fall apart when you view him as an author who experimented with different forms of governance in his world building.

starting with plating the seeds in the ground and ending with cooking.

Sounds like you’re pretty aware of the process so let me offer the alternative view you seem to be pushing:

1. Gently and respectfully lick society’s asshole
2. Beg society to please give you some way of cooking your food because without the help of current technology and organization you’d be the one who’s cooked.
3. Ignore the palpable cringe of your ancient ancestors as they look down on you from the unga boonga afterlife

I was going to link you to a wikipedia article titled CIA controversies but took the time to name a few of the more flagrant episodes by them and the FBI which would be more interesting to learn about.

Operation north wood, midnight climax, mk ultra, project mockingbird, cointelpro, operation chaos, the church committee reports.

Reading about just a few of these should start to reveal that skepticism regarding the intent and methodology of the US gov is a valid response and not necessarily in line with ‘conspiracy theory bullshit.’

I see what you mean. I would explain my logic as such:

1. These agencies have a consistent history of misleading populaces at home and abroad, through tactics such as the one mentioned above.

2. Part of their work is to hide/destroy evidence of falsehood.

3. At one of the most turbulent times in decades, the chances of their clandestine participation in the way we view the world is all but assured.

So it’s more of a recognition of a pattern than outright speculation. The alternative view that the US gov is not engaged in these activities domestically seems more far-fetched to me. Not impossible, just out of character.

That’s an assumption you’re making and then simply declaring to be self-evident.

It’s self evident to anyone who reads the things that have been released regarding past events.

The US government has consistently relied on misleading it’s populace as a tactic. If you genuinely don’t believe this and want examples to digest with an open mind, id be glad to throw some out.

Chances that a US 3 letter agency has conducted clandestine operations within the country (aimed at misleading it’s own populace) in the past 5 years are pretty much a certainty.

Speculation is pretty much all one can do for these because the evidence is deliberately and professionally hidden. Such evidence may never be available to the public and usually takes time to surface.