i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

if it needs to be green olives, get the stuffed ones. but black olives are fine.

soylent

If there was no demand, these children wouldn’t be forced to work in mines - it’s that simple.

setting aside the difficulty of quantifying demand, this is still an unprovable statement. you can’t prove a counterfactual.

“supply and demand” is a theory about price discovery. it is not an explanation for the existence of a market.

anyone can read it and see i grasp the subject, and reject unscientific work.

your link shows the same as the op thread: I’m primarily interested in a factual, scientifically accurate discussion.

I’m not antivegan

but we DO make tofu and tvp. and they have higher profits per pound than animal feed. but we produce far too much soybean oil for the amount of byproduct people want to consume. giving it to livestock makes sense

The soy that’s fed to pigs is almost entirely the byproduct of pressing soy for soybean oil. about 85% of the soybean crop is pressed for oil. if we didn’t feed the byproduct to livestock, it would just be industrial waste.