Stop pretending that people who hoard more money & power than entire countries and have to abuse countless workers to get there have the same level of rational thought as you and me.

It’s like the idea of being a king. When you can, at will, throw folks in jail… it messes you up. It changes how you view the world and your role in it.

Then remember that it’s not like these guys all just went “I’m a billionaire. That’s it. I won. I’m done”

They kept chasing money and kept growing. They kept chasing power. You realize that some of them are thinking about more than just being an influential billionaire, right?

Once again — some of them want their own cities. Look up “freedom cities.” Trump has stated, in a 2-3 minute camera clip, that he would like to auction off federal land to billionaires for them to run their own cities. It is unsaid but implied that they would get to make the laws there.

It’s literally what Peter Thiel has been trying to accomplish for the rich & wealthy for decades.

“I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” -Peter Thiel

The only thing these right wingers mean when they say freedom is the freedom for rich people to screw the rest of us even more.

Power. And. Money. Corrupt. You know the saying. It’s not a meme, buddy. We have thousands of years of history to show us how often rich & powerful go looney

Hint: it’s most of the time

Billionaires are not our allies. And some of them are genuinely stupid enough to have thought they could contain what was going on that it was just gonna be more tax cuts for them. They, like the public, didn’t all actually believe it would be true. They are not inherently smarter or more immune to propaganda than we are.

They just have more access to information - if they don’t surround themselves with people that are only yes men and such.

Other billionaires are betting on the collapse, and are willing to take less monetary power, to have more literal power if they can create their own city states. Literally what they’re hoping for.

They are short sighted, stupid, arrogant, heartless… and, many, traitors.

Some need to be made an example of.

But we accept those who ask for forgiveness. I’m not saying to actually forgive them. Or to re-establish normal lives with them. Other people can do that work.

But they do have to have SOME kind of off-ramp, or you might as well be making the same arguments that MAGA are when they claim “liberalism is a mental illness and should be jailed.”

Nope. Jailing anyone without due process/etc is un American. We talked before.

We are on the same side. If you’re not a bad actor, I encourage you to take a more constructive approach to this discussion.

When Hamas very first attacked, I was on Israel’s side. Not everyone is as educated on Israel’s influence on our politics/etc. (fuck Israel. They can figure shit out on their own. I don’t want to fund genocide. Period.)

They ARE traitors. Russian-backed, Nazi-seig-heil throwing traitors. They aren’t joking about wanting to jail liberals. They 100% mean it.

They’ve been prepped to be fine with it since they started calling “liberalism a mental disorder.”

Straight Russian propaganda. The Kremlin wants to stamp out western liberal democracy. MAGA’s the push to destroy America

Yeap. That was the plan. JD Vance is on camera well before the election saying Trump should have his Andrew Jackson moment and tell them to go ahead and try to enforce their ruling. They want absolute power.

I’d post the clip if I could, it says too large. 😴

Edit: here is a link to the clip. Idk where to upload it for a longer period. It’ll expire 2 days from when I post this. Full vid = “Dark Gothic MAGA” by Blonde Politics

https://streamable.com/mit2cu

This is literally the moment where a dictator rises. This is THE make it or break it moment. If the Supreme Court does not appoint marshals to enforce its ruling - if it does not enforce it is a co-equal branch, as mandated by the Constitution,

then the Executive is free to do what it wants with no consequences. The Executive is immune even to Supreme Court rulings.

Even if you somehow believe that the 2026 and 2028 elections will still matter by then (IF WE MAKE IT THERE, VOTE ANYWAY MOFO), just imagine the damage a president that is no longer equal to the Supreme Court & Congress can do. The Constitution is quite literally broken at that point - if you can make the argument that the previous executive immunity ruling didn’t break it in the first place.

Anyone got betting odds on the SC actually trying to enforce the ruling?.. just trying some humor cause… boys, gals, otherwise… no matter what ultimately happens as the outcome to all this, all roads are dark from here.

Project2025.observer <— tracker

Mission accomplished

Fuck Israel. Trump is just as bad if not worse on Israel. He proudly and loudly will give Israel anything they want.

But no we have to argue about nonsense like Trump’s tariffs tanking the economy because we elected a traitor and a moron… instead of electing the prosecutor we could have influenced her stance on Israel.

We literally had Congress folk in Russia on July 4th. Please stop whitewashing Russia. Israel and Russia are both our enemies.

You need to accept that there are overlapping, but sometimes opposing, interests that are working together but may split at some point.

The oligarchs want to be Russia.

But instead of the CEO of America having absolute power like Putin (well, he would still, but) he would answer to the oligarchy. The “board of directors” of America.

Some of the tech bros just want to outright collapse American democracy and make new city-states from the ashes. I’d say there’s less of them, but they ARE prominent in the administration (MUSK is one of them) and they are very dangerous.

Meanwhile the religious right is a bit more traditional and want a strong unitary religious authoritarian government that basically institutes Christian theocracy.

Both interests benefit by taking power from the many (us) and pooling it to the few (tech & oil billionaires)

But this is what happens when everyone starts to paint the world entirely in black & white and does things like essentially say Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders are equally left. (Or have such a warped world view you don’t understand Sanders is like a single footstep to the left, because America is so far to the right)

I agree with you. Just to be clear, I’m not saying that Trump is literally like Putin’s direct agent in America where Putin says “ok now do this!” and Trump does it.

It’s more than Trump has been doing Russian dirty work for decades and through that relationship, the Russians both have made “friends” with Trump and learned how to manipulate him (whether that’s only through flattery & strongmanism or if there’s actually some kind of dirt there, I can’t say with 100% certainty) and that Trump’s personal goals will often overlap with Russia’s goals or Russia sees a way it can score an outcome from something Trump is already leaning into.

Like you said - gardeners watching the fruits of their labor grow. And occasionally sprinkling some fertilizer when it benefits them.

But the goals of both parties are anti-American

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CouchFucker is directly tied into Thiel/Musk (Thiel dumped like 15mil into Vance’s senate campaign), who all promote the Curtis Yarvin “dark enlightenment” ideology, which is as I already described, a movement to return the US to monarchy, and ultimately, multiple monarchies led by corporations. I know my words sound fucking nuts and like a conspiracy theory to people who aren’t familiar with it… but the Blonde Politics video I referenced in the previous comment is my favorite presentation of a lot of this information.

While the title of her video can sound a bit conspiratorial, she does a great job of presenting to you actual clips of what they’re saying without it being out of context. You hear THEM say that their plans are… exactly multiple things I’ve said. It made me sick to my stomach the first time I watched it.

I mean I hear what you’re saying, and I actually agree with several points, but my first response is good luck getting people to hear you about the poison that is social media or your plan for traditional media (& I don’t wanna say the bad words but you know which words the folks on the right will call that – obviously they are fearmongering) while we are dealing with literal Nazis deporting people and inching ever closer to deporting perceived enemies, LGBTQ/trans folk, liberals, etc. In fact I have told anyone I can in Canada/other countries I know or come into contact with to contact their government and advise them to take action against social media to prevent more Elon Musk-like abuse.

I am 100% interested in implementing what you’re saying - it’s one of the first real proposals I’ve heard for helping deal with this mess - but these things are only going to be able to be dealt with when we aren’t at risk of shipping even more legal immigrants or our own civilians to foreign prison camps. You are missing the forest for the trees because of your desire to fight the, and your anger at, the system.

I agree the system is broken. You are 100% right we wouldn’t be here if it hadn’t been able to be abused to this extent in the first place.

But we are here and we have to deal with the cards we are given - and considering they’re starting to ramp up social media monitoring for folks that are “pro Palestine” or “anti semitic”, it’s fairly safe to say that’s beyond a slippery slope to changing the search terms to being anti-Trump.

He’s literally revoking the security clearances of people that investigated him and threatening to prosecute them. That’s literally political prosecution unless you continue to deny Russia connections like a fool/traitor. He’s literally talking about how he wants to pursue sending American civilians that are prisoners, to foreign prisons. Just like Nazi Germany started doing to the Jews.

I say this gently because, assuming you’re a real person I again agree with some of your thoughts and think they’re worth expanding on:

get your head out of your ass. It is astonishing that you can dare make claims about the “dog tearing up the flower bed” within this context. If you think “it could never happen here,” then why are we still waiting on them to bring back the man that the Supreme Court said that the admin must bring back, and that we are supposedly paying El Salvador to house since they are still technically OUR prisoner?

You should actually read the article I posted. It calls this out directly – in that continue down this path and it’s likely you aren’t going to see reality until a military boot kicks you in the balls.

Project2025.observer <— a website tracking the progress of P2025’s phase 1 public goals. Take a look. It’s already like 50% complete.

Project2025 ends with Trump calling the Insurrection Act and using its powers to attempt to remain a dictator. Everything I have shared with you backs up that the plan is to make Trump into the “CEO dictator” of the United States.

Is this really what you would have been shouting about in Weimar Germany before the Nazis seized absolute power? That we should be focused on some other issue instead of STOPPING THE NAZIS???

"in July 1932, the National Socialists had attained but 37 per cent of the vote. But the 63 per cent of the German people who expressed their opposition to Hitler were much too divided and shortsighted to combine against a common danger which they must have known would overwhelm them unless they united, however temporarily, to stamp it out.”

Excerpt From The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich Shirer, William

They’re already in power. They’re working to ensure that they can stay in power. They are deporting people en masse, even people here on legal asylum. They are threatening to ship American prisoners there. Both Trump and Musk have made comments about wanting to jail people they view/claim as funding anti-Tesla protests (largely in reference to the damage being done but every single step brings us closer to outright targeting of anyone the right doesn’t like.)

You know it’s true. They already make jokes about how all of us have “TDS.” They joke about how liberalism is a mental illness. Do I have to continue to beat the danger into your head?

4chan is in power now. 4chan is not joking. Trump is not joking. Continue to ignore it and the Republic is lost. the world will be lucky if Europe and the rest of “the West” survive China/Russia expansion. We already know China is eyeing up Taiwan. You think with how Trump is handling Ukraine, he’s gonna put much effort into helping Taiwan? Continue to ignore it, and the entire world is in peril. It’s not hyperbole. It’s not a joke. It’s not trolling.

It’s only gonna be trolling till the first few people get killed by MAGA like Proud Boys, or ICE. Mark my words.

Sorry yall, I’m a wordy mother fker. Probably got a little bit of diarrhea of the mouth. <_<

Thank you, I appreciate the positive response. I am pounding the drum as loudly & clearly as I can as time is running out. People need to see the bigger picture, instead of the 4chan reality that’s overtaken the world. It’s like everyone (those that don’t/didn’t vote or are MAGA) forgot what reality & history was like before 2016. Trump’s firehose of never ending scandals and our failure to punish them fully enable this to happen.

I will say that I think that Russia planted many seeds. They in fact tell us this; in previous decades they sponsored left wing groups. However, it just so happens this time they made connections with the right wing billionaires who are willing to sacrifice our global alliances (and harm the millions of lower class people) to reshape North America in their vision. It is the perfect storm of many traitors within our government sharing a similar ideology and vision of how the country should run (oligarchy/right wing authoritarianism) & our enemies abusing this perceived shared vision to harm our democracy.

Just to hammer the point further - certain Fox News hosts (rhymes with Yucker Marlson), are known to take Russian money - as are several twitch broadcasters (primarily gamers), really emphasizing their reach. The “big think” link I provided really spells out that they used propaganda over decades to help nudge our ideology even further right, which likely just put gasoline on the fire of our failure to punish the confederates, the failure of reconstruction, & our later acceptance of Nazis (and the Nazi culture that temporarily was prominent in America… Ford the most prominent example)

It’s happening in every democracy.

Pollieviere in Canada. (Forgive spelling, again?)

Marine La Pen in France

AfD party in Germany

Bolsonsaro in Brazil

Brexit happening in the UK (also called for in FoG)

Someone else mentioned Romania, though I can’t speak on that as much. I’m sure there’s many more.

Propaganda to destabilize western democracies is the main weapon of China, Russia, North Korea and Iran. And Trump thinks he gets along with all of them, except maybe Xi.

I’ll say once more for now: anyone denying this is a fool or a traitor. The connections aren’t happening just in the US, they’re happening everywhere. And the billionaire network states plan says that’s exactly the point - if they can destabilize the US, they think they can do it to every democracy. What a treasure for China and Russia.

“How do you replace the current elite? You make new countries.” - quote from one of the right wing billionaires showcased in “DARK GOTHIC MAGA” by Blonde Politics on YouTube. Go listen to him say it if you don’t believe me. (And correct my phrasing if it’s slightly off)

Not saying Trump’s presidency will Balkanize the US. The tech bros think longer than 4 years. But they absolutely are working toward creating their own city states and want to Balkanize the US. Trump said it out loud – he wants to offer up federal land for billionaires to bid on as “freedom cities.” Video is easily searchable on Google. They will be run by tech billionaires, AI, surveillance & automated weapons. (See Peter Thiel’s Palantir & Anduril companies, and Thiel’s decades long goal of seizing power for a billionaires/monarchy. Kinda like how Thiel and Musk grew up under apartheid. Must remind them of home. Huh?)

I am going in a bunch of different directions here so I will just end on that while I strongly advocate we are directly at war with Russia and this is largely the result of decades of our enemies promoting propaganda against us, it’s also only possible because of various factions of internal traitors too.

I probably could go on. The Russian connections are EVERYWHERE and I’m only able to detail certain ones in America.

Maybe I’ll clean up what I’m saying here after I wake up some more. 🙃

Yeah go away with the propaganda. Trump has been laundering Russian money since the 80s. Trump’s 2016 campaign was littered with connections to Russia.

You have fallen for the conspiracy theory that it was a “Russia Russia Russia hoax”

Mueller explicitly said that he could not exonerate Trump; if he could, he would. Instead, he outlines that the Trump campaign refused to cooperate and that Trump himself specifically obstructed justice in the case preventing Mueller from completing it – and so he (Mueller) would follow the sitting DOJ guideline a sitting president cannot be indicted. That explicitly outlines additional criminal activity by Trump to prevent identification of any connections he might have to Russia. Meanwhile, some of his staff went to prison.

You are the one thinking in black and white. Once again, as I’ve said many times, I am not advocating for marching on Russia. But they said they would destroy us from within in the 90s; once again, they created additional doctrine called Project Russia around 2009-2010 that was also used in military psyops.

I don’t really wanna hear “there’s no mastermind or masterplan” nonsense from the party that cried about “the deepstate!” and “stolen election” for 8+ years. The party that decried “new world order” for decades and went on the red scare calling people communists (and in fact to this day use “communism” and “socialism” as scare tactics)

I am not claiming our internal issues are not also a problem. But you are an absolute clown & fool if you cannot see the connections to Russia. We literally put Paul Manafort in federal prison for related charges, no? And at least 1 other campaign staffer?

And now we are handing Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter. Not demanding anything of them – and the absolute clown of a proposal our guy offered literally partitioned Ukraine in a way that set it up so that Russia could regroup and take the rest of it later.

Seriously. I’m aware there might be a little bit of irony in this statement, but it. is. not. even. hidden. anymore. “Rather Russian than a democrat”, remember? --> anyone denying the connections to Russia is a fool, or a traitor. Period. You can let me know which you are. Once again, I’m aware there might be some irony… but unlike in the red scare, MAGA is actually damaging the US irreparably – and at least some of it has clear connection to, and benefits, Russia.

Not to mention that the overall destabilizing of the US and its isolation from the world literally hands global power to Russia and China…

So what is it; fool, or traitor?

“…what matters is the targeting of essential structural elements of a nation: economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. Basically, the subverter (Russia) would look to destabilize every one of those areas in the United States, considerably weakening it.”

https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/

“Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal GLOBALIST Western hegemony”

Released in the 90s, and became Russian intel agent required reading. That’s just one highly relevant quote. Check the “content” section for a few eye poppers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Feel free to google “Project Russia” next, as that was the successor to FoG.

In all reality, if the world before 2016 matters to you at all and you understand Russia has been waging a psychological war against us since the 90s and never stopped fighting the Cold War, the picture is very clear. The evidence isn’t even tangential. It’s blatant and it’s everywhere.

We just live in post-truth… which is exactly how Russia and China live. That’s why you can’t talk about certain topics in China involving tanks. (Tbh I’m just tired and too lazy to google the spelling…) Russia is literally in the midst of brainwashing children its kidnapped from Ukraine.

We have traitors in office pretending Russia is our ally and directly spewing kremlin propaganda, while attacking and damaging the United States only to hand cash to their rich buddies while we are implementing a mass deportation campaign of even legal immigrants, shipping them to horrific prisons overseas. This story never gets better at this stage without getting much worse.

Wishing everyone the best… very scared for what’s to come. :-)

The only way this ends in a sane world is the Supreme Court appointing marshals to arrest people.

I think you and I both know the number of bad possible outcomes outnumber the positive number of outcomes… and I think that applies to this entire presidency

I’m … tired.

“During this two-to-five-year period, asserted Bezmenov, what matters is the targeting of essential structural elements of a nation: economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. Basically, the subverter (Russia) would look to destabilize every one of those areas in the United States, considerably weakening it.”

We are here: attacking Canada, Greenland, Mexico (damaging our economy & theirs, and clearly our foreign relations) Trump also offered to cut defense spending if Russia does. It’s all very obvious if you’re not in the cult.

https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/