“Must” in a headline means “won’t.”
It’s simply amazing that the US has such a profound carve out in its foreign policy for this one little cruel nation. They attacked a US Navy ship and we were cool with that. They stole nuclear material from us, and we were cool with that.
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What? Israel’s nuke program deters all of its hostile neighbors, who are actual far right dictatorships, from trying to roll through it and actually commit another Holocaust.
I’m not saying that other middle eastern countries are better, but you are delusional if you think that israel isn’t a far right near-dictatorship that is committing a genocide that is only barely stopped by the world and the left people in Israel.
While Israel commits another Holocaust…
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You seem so mad that the genocide isn’t as complete as you want.
Maybe if you can’t read and are projecting your own anger due to cognitive dissonance.
Being angry at the perpetrators of and apologists for genocide is something you will never be capable of understanding.
But Israel has been killing Palestinians long before Hamas… would the attacks in the West Bank stop? I don’t think so.
If the rocket attacks stop, and the Iranian corruption stops, Israel will stop launching counter attacks.
Really, so when Israel unilaterally ended the most recent cease fire, killing 400 people, what attack were they responding to?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-launches-strikes-hamas-netanyahu/
But there is nothing to guarantee that… and Palestinians will still be oppressed by Israel. Right?
Hostage takers and suicide bombers aren’t entitled to guarantees. Criminals who plunder the welfare and futures of their own people to wage a futile war aren’t entitled to guarantees. Gotta be bona fide, gotta have clean hands, if they want equity.
You equate all Palestinians with Hamas then?
Can you explain the Iranian corruption? When was the last time Israel was attacked?
In short, Iran floods in money and weapons to fight Israel. They also flood in a deranged panislamist ideology. They pay so families of suicide bombers and human shields can get martyrdom pensions.
Israel is attacked usually daily, at least weekly, with unguided rockets fired from Gaza and the West Bank, and Lebanon. The last time they were attacked was today.
The rockets are usually either allowed to land because their trajectory is calculated and they are going to hit a field or something, or they are destroyed by Iron Dome, at an annual cost of billions of dollars.
Part of the corruption is the cost of the attacks: the wealth and health of Palestine, pissed away to try and kill Jews. They aren’t starving and sick because of a blockade. They are starving and sick because terrorists have coopted every institution and turned them into instruments of terrorism. Why can’t Gaza import as much food and medicine as it wants through its air or water ports? Well, it’s because their air and water ports were destroyed and blockaded after being used as a launching point for terror attacks, used to import weapons, and weapons and weapons, instead of something anyone could eat.
And where do they launch their rockets from, not military installations or empty fields. They launch them from cul de sacs and schoolyards. And then when attacks come from the same place week after week, and Israel blasts out text messages and leaflets saying to evacuate because we’re going to do an airstrike, Hamas makes sure there will be a bunch of kids and women standing there when the counterstrike happens. It’s sick. Hamas is cancer, and its Iran that keeps it alive. The UN and charity, too. If the people of Gaza actually had to endure the effects of Hamas’s leadership, they’d rise up.
Floods in money? Is that not how America is always providing money to Israel to ensure Israel has a place in the Middle East. Sounds to me like we’re being biased on this view.
Can you help me get a source on the attack you mentioned today? All I am finding is how Israel attacked Beirut; was this in retaliation by Hezbollah?
You mentioned the wealth and health of Palestine is happening due to all these foreign adversaries but is it not because Israel does not want to share a space with that same Palestine because of Hamas? I understand both sides is killing the state but from what is observed Israel seems much more on the fence in its eradication rather than a cooperation under the pretense of elimination of threat.
You seem very aware of the situation so I’m sure you know more than I but from what I’ve read multiple times the aids towards Gaza was stopped in its track by the IDF including at the ports.
I’ve read that in history there is a fabrication of claims and ideas to justify the action of idealists and I hope it is not the case right now with misinformation being a big part of media; social and mainstream.
There are already hundreds of thousands of Palestinian casualties from the Israeli genocide. Israel has been committing war crimes long before Hamas was even created.
Hamas is the most modern entrenched power in Gaza. It ha ideological predecessors they are indistinguishable.
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The UN definition of genocide has 5 points, any ONE of which is enough to call it a genocide.
Israel has hit 5 for 5 in Gaza.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/pt/ihl-treaties/genocide-conv-1948/article-2?activeTab
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Shocker. Back to your safe space.
It’s not any of those five things. It’s any of those five things with intent to destroy a peoples.
South Africa is going to have a hard time proving intent at the ICJ when Hamas uses human shields to inflate civilian casualties and 99/100 Palestinians are alive.
Make your delete every post that takes a view of a highly disputed issue that you personally disagree with. The ICJ didn’t grant the preliminary injunction. Going to pretend everyone agrees with you? Going to also delete the intelligence and diplomatic corps and most of the heads of state of the western world, as well?
And going to delete Wikipedia for showing pretty much both sides violated the ceasefire? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_war_ceasefire
Wait, but didn’t Bibi and many of his government publicly express intent? Such as when they called all Palestinians animals, called for nuking them, or announced they will be cutting all water and supplies… what about all of that?
Yes, Israel is intending to destroy all the Palestinians:
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/palestine-letter-08oct24/
Yeah why haven’t they then I wonder.
They have been, since the 90s.
This represents a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of the geopolitics of the Middle East.
Israel is the country currently committing genocide against the Palestinians, attacking and trying to gain new territory in Syria, breaking ceasefire agreements, carrying out targeted murders of innocent children, journalists, and frankly anyone they feel like killing, and in general just acting like a country of vicious amoral killers.
And in case you’re worried about my tone or personal experience, I am a Jewish descendant of Holocaust survivors, with family who are Israeli, and with whom I will never speak again. Israel is the bad actor here, and unfortunately it’s not just the government and the army, but most of the general population that supports the genocide.
Nukes are not the problem, nor are they the solution or even an effective deterrent. And while Israel’s neighbors are by no means good global citizens, it’s Israel and its murderous, racist, and genocidal rage that are the problem.
Two bad things can be true at the same time.
Israel is currently engaged in ethnic cleansings in Gaza and the West Bank.
True.
Many of Israel’s neighbours would “drive the Jews into the sea” if they ever got the chance.
Also true.
The answer to genocide is not inviting more genocide.
And yes, nukes are effective as a deterrent. Look at how reluctant the West is to support Ukraine against a genocidal invasion because of Russia’s repeated nuclear threats. There’s no way any country is going to give up its nuclear weapons after Ukraine showed just how little security guarantees from the great powers are actually worth.
many of israels neighbors would “drive the jews into the sea” if they ever got the chance
Maybe in the 60s and 70s but every one of israels neighbors, except Saudi Arabia, have normalized relations. Saudi Arabia has no intention of attacking Israel and risking there relationship with the west, nukes or no nukes. Syria just got invaded by them and all there new islamist government has given was a light denouncement. If this were the hay day of Israel hate they wouldve called for a jihad to clear out the jews, times change.
The largest actor on their borders seeking their destruction is hezbollah, and they’ve proven they can’t even defend south Lebanon, much less march on tel Aviv.
Also Israel has shown repeatedly that it can defend itself fine against its neighbors without nukes, even if all there neighbors team up to attack them.
Those are good points, especially on nuclear deterrence re: Russia. I think Israel could be considered to be a bit different in that sense, since their nuclear program (that we know exists) is still technically a secret. But I think I’m probably wrong on how all that works, so good call.
Lol they’ve been effective so far. Tehran knows what will happen if it processes fissile material into a weapon. You have misunderstood.
What if your calculous is wrong, your media sources tainted by anti American propaganda, and there’s not actually a genocide occuring? What if is there are sad but nonetheless valid explanations for the massive civilian death tolls?
Plenty of people including virtually the entire intelligence and diplomatic corps of the western world, along with virtually everyone in Washington DC, disagrees with you.
Plenty of people including virtually the entire intelligence and diplomatic corps of the western world, along with virtually everyone in Washington DC, disagrees with you.
Imagine bootlicking so hard you think it’s a bad thing to be on the other side of the exact same ghouls who lied us into the Iraq War. How can any of us live with ourselves knowing that Dick Cheney thinks we’re bad people?
Check their other comments, they only response to beaten talking point and repeating the same old shit that a spin on wikipedia for a few minutes can shows how sick they are if they are actually human.
How… how would a nuke program deter your neighbors? Wouldn’t that ruin your water supply and complicate everything for you?
The root of the aggression, the funding and weapons sources, and the ideological metastases against Israel is in Iran, 1,000 miles away as the crow flies.
So you don’t mean neighbouring countries.
I do, by way of proxies.
So… if Israel nukes Iran, what will it do when it gets attacked by its neighbours? Won’t they just attack Israel by land while Israel won’t be able to respond with nuking their immediate neighbors? They already have good reason to do it since Israel has not been a good neighbor and has killed high numbers of civilians in Lebanon.
And north koreas nuke program deters it’s hostile neighbor from trying to roll through it.
A lot of countries face threats, that doesnt mean we should give them nukes.
Um. North Korea doesn’t have hostile neighbors. They are bordered by South Korea, China, and Russia.
South Korea is in a strictly defensive posture. Russia is more or less an ally. And China is North Korea’s largest trade partner.
Interestingly, North Korea was one of the largest
financierscontributors to the tunnels in Gaza. Hmm, wonder why that is.The u.s. has a huge presence in South Korea and has repeatedly threatened north Korea, remember trumps “fire and fury” comment.
Gonna need a source on that tunnels claim, I can see them sending experts to help them build them for a fee, because they have no money, but I don’t think they’re going to finance anything, because again they have no money.
You’re correct, sending experts to help for fees.
Further reading: https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2010cv0483-54
Is it not known that the US is biased about its state of Israel? Getting a source from the US is like asking North Korean if Kim Jung Un is the greatest and expecting a answer otherwise
It was a federal court hearing with submission of evidence by adversary parties. Testimony from experts. Read a book.
This is from 2014? With sources from the earlier 2000s? If the US can be as openly bias at it is now, what’s preventing them from pushing a narrative earlier on?
