• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Even the UHC, probably rhe worst company in the US not including health sharing ministries, is a net positive compared to no health insurance. The large majority of claims get approved, wealth gets redistributed to cover those who need it.

    If people don’t want companies making massive profit of off peoples’ sickness and debts then there is a political party with that stance. But the US en masse keeps choosing suffering, choosing to create CEOs like Brian.

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      You’re disconnected from humanity.

      The reason private health care exists is because of greed. Most of the world has moved on to socialized healthcare of some sort. Americans have been programmed their whole lives to say “something is better than nothing.”

      You’re blaming the people for not having better politicians? Which people? The people 60 years ago, who really are the ones that set the course we are on?

      And you call me misguided? Who guided you into apathetically accepting that greed is the norm?

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        Killing Brian brought us 0% closer to socialized healthcare. You’re arguing with a nonexistent strawman whom supports private healthcare because it sure as fuck ain’t me.

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          0% according to your metric. However, the situation isn’t over. He’s not guilty yet. If you thought that killing a single ceo was going to immediately make healthcare free, then you are mistaken. Things don’t happen overnight.

          Every little step counts, we just need more steps.

          I’m sorry you don’t see Luigi as a hero. I do. There is not a thing you can say to convince me otherwise. Having you agree with me also means nothing to me. I really don’t care how you see the world.

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              Actually, voting can’t do it, as we have shown. We need to make being in charge of healthcare a dangerous business to the point where no one fights very hard to get rid of it. We don’t live in a world where people let go of a billion dollar industry because it’s the right thing to do. These people need to be forced out. And seeing one of their own die from greed freaked a lot of them out… not for long, they’re back to their old tricks. Which is why we need more action.

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                We haven’t had 60 DNC since 1979.

                When we had 58 in 2010 for only 72 days we got Medicaid Expansion, would have dirt cheap public option like they do in European countries if not for Joe Lieberman caucusing independent. Well, him and every single Republican who voted no.

                Try it first then tell me it doesn’t work.

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      You have to be fucking kidding me 😂

      net positive compared to no health insurance

      Let me stop you right there. Health insurance is a blight on humanity. They do NOT provide healthcare. We have invented the need for insurance, the need for an intermediary who does not have medical expertise or training to be involved in decisions about healthcare. This is not a net positive in any way. A single denied claim makes it a negative. The millions of deaths caused by insurance companies were largely preventable. For everyone keeping score at home, that does appear to me to be what we call a “net negative”, unless they provide some incredible benefit that somehow wipes that all away.

      If people don’t want companies making massive profit of off peoples’ sickness and debts then there is a political party with that stance

      [Citation needed]

      But the US en masse keeps choosing suffering, choosing to create CEOs like Brian.

      What a fucking heartless statement of victim blaming. You appear to have no intersectional understanding, and no awareness of the actual reality faced by a large majority of USians.

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        You literally have a system that funds hospitals and healthcare by taking small amounts from everyone. That part isn’t the problem. The problem is allowing it to be done for massive profits.

        To outlaw that while also not providing any replacement would be the same as sentencing tens of millions to die or suffer from treatable illness.

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          To outlaw that while also not providing any replacement would be the same as sentencing tens of millions to die or suffer from treatable illness.

          Who the fuck is saying that? Literally I have never seen someone ever suggest that

          No one would need to directly be paying for healthcare or insurance in order for folks to have good care. In a system that doesn’t greatly reward antisocial behavior and policies is there any reason we couldn’t you know, maybe NOT require folks to pass any kind of barrier, financial or otherwise, in order to get care? The problem is not just that it’s done for profits. Even if all insurance companies had to be nonprofits, as long as we keep doing things this way (the system at large that is not solution focused with the goal of meeting needs effectively and responsibly, but is instead profit driven) they would still have to deny claims to remain afloat.

          Also, don’t pretend you give a shit about people suffering or not receiving adequate care when you’re an apologist for fucking UHC and Mr Dead CEO.