• Seasm0ke@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I am well aware that their consent has been manufactured successfully, and also that a fascist machine can never be allowed to prevail regardless of its veneer of democracy or legitimacy. Do you honestly look at the American government and see democracy?

    Is your advice to the civil rights movements of the past that they should have never pursued direct action because the majority had not deemed it necessary to afford them rights?

    The 8 hour workday wasnt worth fighting for? Stonewall should have just stuck to catchy slogans? Your response perfectly encapsulates the danger of the white moderate and the downfall of respectability politics.

    Revolutions are made necessary by boot licking sycophants who hold order over justice. In a society that abandons justice there can be no order without authoritarianism**. I dont believe authoritarianism is valid when it has been voted for, it should be met with the same violence it wields against others. **

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      I see America becoming more fascist every day because both the right and left have been conditioned by social media to hate democracy.

      You may feel like you’re better than those that support MAGA, but you really aren’t. You’re the ones falling for catchy slogans like “late stage capitalism” and “genocide Joe” which have “radicalized” you (another way of saying you’ve turned off your brain) to turn against democracy. You’re just as narcissistic as Trump, just you want to be the one imposing your will onto others instead of Trump. Tankies claim to dislike MAGAs but are incapable of seeing they are the exact same kind of people.

      By abandoning democracy, the Tankie crowd is just as complicit as the MAGAs in the suffering that will result from fascism. Just got scammed by a different of authoritarian grifters, but the result is the same. Nobody will respect a movement that did nothing while their country became an fascist shithole, and they certainly won’t be making you the authoritarians in charge. The “late stage capitalism” narrative was a scam and you fell for it just as hard as MAGAs fell for Trump telling them he’d bring about a golden age for America.

      There are no shortcuts for progress, and you’re currently moving backwards because internet algorithms have made you willing to trade democracy for a fantasy golden age just like the MAGAs.

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        A whole bunch of assumptions and no substance. Just an elitest lib Pearl clutching because the left wont abandon their principles for diet fascism.

        If we had actual direct consensus based democracy I would have a different opinion, but we have an oligarchy in America, an electoral college, closed primary systems with arbitrary rules and super delegates. America is not a democracy.

        I concede that revolution is an authoritarian act, but I believe revolution against a tyrannical government is self defense and not only justified but a moral imperative.

        I am not even a tankie, and to water down my presumed ideology to feed your sense of superiority is exactly what I expected from you.