Yes there are. Actually quite a lot. They hate it because it isn’t a perfect solution in every single case that X.Org provided but ignore the long history of vulnerabilities, bugs, and cursed workarounds present in X.Org. it is getting harder for them to hate though as most of the pain points (eg. color management and global shortcuts) are part of the standard now.
They will hate it even if Wayland is absolutely perfect in every way. It is less about Wayland and more about wanting to stand out and gate keep. They want Linux to be a small group of elite users only.
With that being said, there are still reasons to use Xorg. As of today X still has the edge in remote access and desktop sharing. I think that’s liable to change soon but for now tools like Xpra xrdp only work with X. Some desktops have things built in but those are desktop specific so I don’t see them as a general solution.
but ignore the long history of vulnerabilities, bugs, and cursed workarounds present in X.Org
You’re not wrong on the other points, but that one… you’d also have to ignore the things that got fixed in X.Org, and the things that will show up in the various wayland implementations that were fixed previously. That’s the thing when doing things from scratch, old issues shows up sometimes.
If it’s only available as a flatpak I don’t need it. 🤷
Its your call
However, Flatpak is growing in popularity so chances are that’s going to be more and more the norm. Same thing with Wayland.
Are there people who hate Wayland as well?
There are people who hate anything new.
Call it flatpak, call it wayland, call it systemd. There’s always haters.
Systemd isn’t new… (Tell that to the systemd haters who think it is still “controversial”)
Point taken though
Yes there are. Actually quite a lot. They hate it because it isn’t a perfect solution in every single case that X.Org provided but ignore the long history of vulnerabilities, bugs, and cursed workarounds present in X.Org. it is getting harder for them to hate though as most of the pain points (eg. color management and global shortcuts) are part of the standard now.
They will hate it even if Wayland is absolutely perfect in every way. It is less about Wayland and more about wanting to stand out and gate keep. They want Linux to be a small group of elite users only.
With that being said, there are still reasons to use Xorg. As of today X still has the edge in remote access and desktop sharing. I think that’s liable to change soon but for now tools like Xpra xrdp only work with X. Some desktops have things built in but those are desktop specific so I don’t see them as a general solution.
You’re not wrong on the other points, but that one… you’d also have to ignore the things that got fixed in X.Org, and the things that will show up in the various wayland implementations that were fixed previously. That’s the thing when doing things from scratch, old issues shows up sometimes.