• Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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    remember to NEVER DONATE TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AT LARGE EVER AGAIN so they can’t use our money to oppose the candidates we actually WANT.

    Donate Surgically.

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    You cannot fight the system that allowed this to happen from within.

    They will inevitably need to leave the party in order to put their support behind real resistance.

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      Agreed. And now is the time to try that. The Democrat party is infused with corruption and incompetence. From Schumer’s spinelessness, to Fetterman’s and Newsom’s profound lack of integrity.

      There needs to be a genuine grassroots movement with real momentum to push back hard against the insanity of the Republicans.

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      This is what I’ve been saying. Where did playing along with the establishment get people like Bernie & AOC? Democratic seniority has no respect for them. If they had put their own interests & that of donors above the American people, then they could have easily gotten further ahead. They end up helping Democratic leadership more than anything, while that leadership would turn on them in a heartbeat if they dared to question their roles. I’m sure by next election though they’ll be telling them they must fall into line again & back their corporate NPC. Unfortunately, they have shown they’ll fall into line now. They better start explaining how Biden, Kamala, Schumer, Pelosi & others are why we are where we’re at now.

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      Why? Wouldn’t it be harder to get enough votes to win general elections as third parties than to win primaries?

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      You’re never going to convince the 30% of Americans that self identify as Democrats to change. Same for the 30% of Republicans.

      You either use the Dems as a tool, or you split the party and fail. Look at the tea party for an example.

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    Are they joining a new political party? No? Well, are they founding a new party? No? So, same-old same-old. Got it.

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    I expect both of them to be arrested before it becomes a mass movement. We are in a fascist state already.

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      LoL. They’re both still feverishly defending sending arms to certain battle zones. Both still subservient to the MIC.

      Don’t fall for the media propaganda that these pretenders are peak progressive.

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        They may not be “peak progressive”, but by American standards they are far ahead of the pack.

        Maybe don’t let perfect stand in the way of good.

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          Liberals are reactionaries who wish to return to a former status quo. Leftists wish to move forward to a better status quo. They want opposing things.

          Bernie & AOC, while more progressive than most liberals, are still liberals.

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            who wish to return to a former status quo.

            That sounds more like conservatives to me.

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              Exactly. Liberals and conservatives are two sides of the same coin. They simply disagree about what status quo to return to, and who is acceptable to exploit.

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              By his own words, he is not. He is a democratic socialist. He beliefs in reform of capitalism, rather than moving to a better system entirely.

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    Don’t fall for it again. The Dems are trotting out their token progressives to prevent an exodus from the party.