• anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Are we really still doing this?

    Honestly it seems like liberals hate their own base more than the reactionaries they are supposedly the opposition to

    Actually that tracks, since most of the DNC has been flirting with reactionary commentators and billionaires while actively criticizing the one part of their party actually building momentum

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        1 day ago

        It’s just good praxis when you divide the electorate and usher in a fascist regime that will kill millions, but ‘divisive’ when you criticize that?

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            Too bad you didn’t participate when a vote was all that was needed. It’s going to take a lot more than that now.

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            1 day ago

            “Voting isn’t enough!” mfers doing nothing that substantiates change now that fascism is literally in the driver’s seat.

            Thanks. Me and everyone else who’s going to fucking die under this administration thank you for your immeasurable left purity.

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          So exactly what amount of criticism will overthrow a fascist regime? I can say with certainty that more votes would have prevented one from taking over.

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            Considering that the core message of “The LIBS are too IMPURE to be worth allying with, even to stop fascism!”, it may be that this attitude has wider implications than just in the last election. Maybe cultivating fascist-enabling attitudes has fascist-enabling consequences?

            No, of course not. How silly of me. It’s just the one time, the 2024 election, wherein fascist-enabling attitudes had fascist-enabling consequences. Next time it’ll be fine.

            The attitude criticized here is the same attitude that would’ve decried the Sovs and Western Allies teaming up to fight the literal fucking Nazis.

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                Red fascist apologia, how surprising. But who cares about Polish or Baltic sovereignty? You have imperialism ‘power politics’ to play defense for, right?

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                    Certainly not the French of British

                    The point of dispute was the Soviet Union asserting that the treaty would have given the Sovs permission to invade Poland and the Baltics, while the position of the UK and France was that Poland and the Baltics were sovereign and that France and the UK had no power to grant the Soviets any such thing.

                    I’m curious - historical illiteracy, or intentional bootlicking?

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              Who said it was just the one time? Welcome to FPTP elections. We get two choices, neither is ideal. You vote for the lesser of two evils, or you accept the greater to lead the nation. It’s a horrible system, but you’re smart enough to know how it works.

              The attitude here is quite literally the opposite. Your arrogance is deporting innocent people to El Salvador. Your pride is taking food and medicine from the needy. Your self-righteousness is building a billionaire resort in Gaza.

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                … are we talking past each other? Because right now, it sounds like you’re making the same point I am.

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                  My bad. I just reread the thread and it seems you’re right. I really should get some coffee before I start typing. Lol