• spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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    11 days ago

    i mean yes but why misgender her 🤨 she still won that olympic gold lol it’s not a different person

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      11 days ago

      I’d argue that it’s weird to call a Bruce, “her”. After she transitioned, thats a different story.

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        11 days ago

        Yeah take this as a heads up then. In the trans community, it is generally recommended to use a person’s current pronouns and name, even when referring to their past. This aligns with the principle that a trans person has always been their gender, even if they were perceived differently at the time.

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          11 days ago

          That goes against the common argument about calling people what they look like though. There are a lot of contradictions to wade through.

          I’d also argue that it’s completely different if they were famous, which Bruce was.

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            11 days ago

            Common argument about calling people what they look like

            No one who actually understands gender expressions argues for this lmfao

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            11 days ago

            Okie but you are in the wrong and I am giving you the grace of a heads up. You will end up causing hurt with this mindset if you tend to hang around trans inclusive spaces. The “common argument” is neither relevant nor even truly common and there is no reason to defend it.

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              11 days ago

              It’s incredibly common. Especially when trying to shame people for getting the terminology wrong.

              Commonly framed as a meme showing how stupid you are for thinking this “incredibly feminine looking transwoman is a man”.

              You just kinda skipped the part about being famous too, as if it doesn’t affect perception. You can’t retroactively change the fact that Bruce won gold in mens sport.