The problem is that the ‘Not Perfect’ party refuses to actually fight or advocate for universal, popular policies. Instead, the "Not Perfect’ party sits on their hands, bullies their base, and waits for everything to collapse so that they are the default option.
So vote in the “Not Perfect” parties primaries to get better candidates nominated, and at the same time work on getting a ballot initiative for ranked choice voting.
They railroaded Clinton into being the 2016 candidate and appointed Harris as the 2024 one. The DNC leadership doesn’t care what their constituents actually want.
Uncoincidentally, that’s why said leadership needs to be replaced.
They railroaded Clinton into being the 2016 candidate and appointed Harris as the 2024 one.
Clinton won the popular vote in the 2016 primaries. Nonratfuckety was needed. No superdelegates needed to cast a single vote at the convention because she had enough pledged elected delegates. The party even changed the rules starting in 2018 so that superdelegates don’t even get a vote in the convention unless the pledged delegates can’t elect a nominee in the first round of voting.
The DNC leadership doesn’t care what their constituents actually want.
Which is why we have to actually show up and out-vote them instead of losing elections to “teach them a lesson” which hurts us more than it does them.
Uncoincidentally, that’s why said leadership needs to be replaced.
Yes indeed. And the DNC leadership elections after the last election have finally started that shift towards more progressive leadership (notice that the leaders are voted into office, that and people had to participate in that vote, it’s kind of a theme here 😋).
Right, and we get around it by showing up in numbers to vote. But of course people need to actually step up and run for the nominations, too. I’m eager to see how David Hogg’s funding efforts pan out.
It hasn’t because most people haven’t been voting in primaries, which is why they’re saying to do it. It’s almost always old people voting in primaries and they choose their familiar name old person candidate and then we’re stuck with them.
The other half of it that everyone ignores is there actually has to be a better candidate campaigning for the nomination. Bernie lost the popular vote in the primaries, but inspired more progressives to campaign, and we got the squad out of it. People need to run, and people need to vote, or you get the status quo with donor-preferred candidates.
We had primaries and nobody serious wanted to run against the incumbent president. Biden won the primary. Then he dropped out due and the delegates pledged to Biden (and elected by the primary voters) elected Harris as the nominee in the convention. Maybe you can show me when in the history of the USA a running incumbent president lost the primary, or even when any serious challenger campaigned against them in the primary.
So we didn’t have a primary because Biden was the presumptive nominee
The hyperbole does you no favors here. Every state held a primary. Two did not have the presidential race on their ballots (I think Florida and Delaware). In Texas there we 9 presidential candidates on the Democratic primary ballot. I know you really really really want that to be the same as not having a primary, but it isn’t (except for the one race in those two states). Blame the fact that most of them were a joke on the better candidates who chose not to run.
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The problem is that the ‘Not Perfect’ party refuses to actually fight or advocate for universal, popular policies. Instead, the "Not Perfect’ party sits on their hands, bullies their base, and waits for everything to collapse so that they are the default option.
So vote in the “Not Perfect” parties primaries to get better candidates nominated, and at the same time work on getting a ballot initiative for ranked choice voting.
They railroaded Clinton into being the 2016 candidate and appointed Harris as the 2024 one. The DNC leadership doesn’t care what their constituents actually want.
Uncoincidentally, that’s why said leadership needs to be replaced.
Clinton won the popular vote in the 2016 primaries. Nonratfuckety was needed. No superdelegates needed to cast a single vote at the convention because she had enough pledged elected delegates. The party even changed the rules starting in 2018 so that superdelegates don’t even get a vote in the convention unless the pledged delegates can’t elect a nominee in the first round of voting.
Which is why we have to actually show up and out-vote them instead of losing elections to “teach them a lesson” which hurts us more than it does them.
Yes indeed. And the DNC leadership elections after the last election have finally started that shift towards more progressive leadership (notice that the leaders are voted into office, that and people had to participate in that vote, it’s kind of a theme here 😋).
And said leadership is not EVER going to cede their power, which is one of the core issues in play.
Right, and we get around it by showing up in numbers to vote. But of course people need to actually step up and run for the nominations, too. I’m eager to see how David Hogg’s funding efforts pan out.
How’s that been working out over the last 40+ years?
Show me when a primary candidate won the popular vote and then wasn’t nominated.
Just because you don’t like the outcome, doesn’t mean the process wasn’t followed.
It hasn’t because most people haven’t been voting in primaries, which is why they’re saying to do it. It’s almost always old people voting in primaries and they choose their familiar name old person candidate and then we’re stuck with them.
The other half of it that everyone ignores is there actually has to be a better candidate campaigning for the nomination. Bernie lost the popular vote in the primaries, but inspired more progressives to campaign, and we got the squad out of it. People need to run, and people need to vote, or you get the status quo with donor-preferred candidates.
Is the “Not Perfect” party even going to hold a primary this time or does Harris get it by default like Biden last year?
We had primaries and nobody serious wanted to run against the incumbent president. Biden won the primary. Then he dropped out due and the delegates pledged to Biden (and elected by the primary voters) elected Harris as the nominee in the convention. Maybe you can show me when in the history of the USA a running incumbent president lost the primary, or even when any serious challenger campaigned against them in the primary.
So we didn’t have a primary because Biden was the presumptive nominee… who was later removed long after it was obvious he had no chance.
Sounds very Democratic.
The hyperbole does you no favors here. Every state held a primary. Two did not have the presidential race on their ballots (I think Florida and Delaware). In Texas there we 9 presidential candidates on the Democratic primary ballot. I know you really really really want that to be the same as not having a primary, but it isn’t (except for the one race in those two states). Blame the fact that most of them were a joke on the better candidates who chose not to run.
The “not perfect” party got us gay marriage, the affordable care act, and the repeal of don’t ask don’t tell. The response was Trump’s first term.
Agreed. The Looters’ Party is the reasonable choice. The best part with those guys is that you get to keep whatever you get your hands on.