I have a friend who is wealthy, well off, and a retired school teacher … who still argues that we shouldn’t subsidize free food in schools for children.
She argues that it’s the parents responsibility to feed their children.
I asked her as a teacher what she would rather prefer … a classroom where you know every child is not thinking about their hunger … or a class where you know several kids don’t want to be there because they’re hungry
She still insisted it’s the parents responsibility
She’s not wrong - it is a parent’s responsibility to look after their children. But like… I’m still happy to feed a hungry child if it needs food. Because I’m not evil
I understand that and accept that … but at the same time, if the parent is stuck without a job or access to help or just isn’t capable of doing much for themselves let alone their kid, why should society punish the child for the failings of their parent? And yes you can argue that people who aren’t capable shouldn’t be having children but our world is filled with people who probably shouldn’t have children.
It’s our job in this current life to help as many children as possible no matter their situation in the hopes that they will grow up to NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES as their parents and hopefully make a better world for future generations.
We can’t be living in this life for our own convenience all the time … we have to make a better world for future generations who are relying on what we are all doing now.
Worse than that, it’s the mindset of the short-sighted. These fucking morons wouldn’t acknowledge the concept of government spending with a positive ROI even if you waterboarded them with Tang.
They’d rather create a shithole country where they have to cower inside gated communities to protect themselves from the impoverished masses instead of one where everybody is educated and prosperous, even though they themselves would be wealthier in the second case, just because they think everything is a zero-sum game and they can’t win unless everybody else loses.
The worst part of their mentality is that their wealth is based on taking advantage of others around them. They and their wealth wouldn’t exist if not for the work and effort or coercion or abuse of others around them. They believe that they deserve their wealth because it came to them through their own personal effort alone. It’s bad enough that they took advantage of others … it’s far worse to never acknowledge your role in having taken advantage of others.
I always try to remind people of that fact of life
Whenever you see people in need in society … everyone pays for their misfortune no matter what you do or what you believe
You can be a cold hearted conservative and you’ll pay for what happens to these people in the form of higher taxes that go on to pay for increased policing, emergency medical, judiciary, general lawlessness and devaluing of your community as crime increases
You could be a liberal or socially minded and you’ll pay for taxes that go on to help these unfortunate people in the form of social programs to try to help or mitigate their lives
However, the long term results of both these mentalities are what make the difference
Cold hearted conservatism to poverty only makes poverty much much worse and eventually leads to a break down of society as people’s lives becomes worse and worse and civilization just becomes an expensive police state governed by violence
Socially minded supports foster young people and give them a chance to make a better future for themselves and go on to build a better society. Once you do that for a few generations, the benefits only increase with time not just for the individual but everyone in general.
That is the strange part … she grew up in the 50/60s in northern Ontario from an immigrant Italian family. They had enough to get by in their childhood but they were on edge of being poor … like everyone else in northern mining/forestry towns back then.
They were part of the post war boom years where everyone had a chance and the rich were held down with enough taxes to fund everything the government did to build a more equitable country.
They got theirs because they thought that it was all done just through their effort and goodness alone and never acknowledging that it was more social government that made it all possible. Now that all those government supports and checks and balances on the rich are removed, no one has a chance and these old boomers still believe that it’s all up to individual effort to get by in life.
I have a friend who is wealthy, well off, and a retired school teacher … who still argues that we shouldn’t subsidize free food in schools for children.
She argues that it’s the parents responsibility to feed their children.
I asked her as a teacher what she would rather prefer … a classroom where you know every child is not thinking about their hunger … or a class where you know several kids don’t want to be there because they’re hungry
She still insisted it’s the parents responsibility
Fuck I hate conservatives
She’s not wrong - it is a parent’s responsibility to look after their children. But like… I’m still happy to feed a hungry child if it needs food. Because I’m not evil
I understand that and accept that … but at the same time, if the parent is stuck without a job or access to help or just isn’t capable of doing much for themselves let alone their kid, why should society punish the child for the failings of their parent? And yes you can argue that people who aren’t capable shouldn’t be having children but our world is filled with people who probably shouldn’t have children.
It’s our job in this current life to help as many children as possible no matter their situation in the hopes that they will grow up to NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES as their parents and hopefully make a better world for future generations.
We can’t be living in this life for our own convenience all the time … we have to make a better world for future generations who are relying on what we are all doing now.
Conservitism is the mindset of the selfish
Worse than that, it’s the mindset of the short-sighted. These fucking morons wouldn’t acknowledge the concept of government spending with a positive ROI even if you waterboarded them with Tang.
They’d rather create a shithole country where they have to cower inside gated communities to protect themselves from the impoverished masses instead of one where everybody is educated and prosperous, even though they themselves would be wealthier in the second case, just because they think everything is a zero-sum game and they can’t win unless everybody else loses.
The worst part of their mentality is that their wealth is based on taking advantage of others around them. They and their wealth wouldn’t exist if not for the work and effort or coercion or abuse of others around them. They believe that they deserve their wealth because it came to them through their own personal effort alone. It’s bad enough that they took advantage of others … it’s far worse to never acknowledge your role in having taken advantage of others.
It’s the failure of ‘me vs us’
Ask them if they’d rather pay for the child to be taken in to care.
Because like $3 a day of food is a fuck of a lot cheaper than actually taking responsibility for them by removing them from an unsuitable home.
I always try to remind people of that fact of life
Whenever you see people in need in society … everyone pays for their misfortune no matter what you do or what you believe
You can be a cold hearted conservative and you’ll pay for what happens to these people in the form of higher taxes that go on to pay for increased policing, emergency medical, judiciary, general lawlessness and devaluing of your community as crime increases
You could be a liberal or socially minded and you’ll pay for taxes that go on to help these unfortunate people in the form of social programs to try to help or mitigate their lives
However, the long term results of both these mentalities are what make the difference
Cold hearted conservatism to poverty only makes poverty much much worse and eventually leads to a break down of society as people’s lives becomes worse and worse and civilization just becomes an expensive police state governed by violence
Socially minded supports foster young people and give them a chance to make a better future for themselves and go on to build a better society. Once you do that for a few generations, the benefits only increase with time not just for the individual but everyone in general.
It’s cause she doesn’t have the slightest notion of what it’s actually like being poor.
That is the strange part … she grew up in the 50/60s in northern Ontario from an immigrant Italian family. They had enough to get by in their childhood but they were on edge of being poor … like everyone else in northern mining/forestry towns back then.
They were part of the post war boom years where everyone had a chance and the rich were held down with enough taxes to fund everything the government did to build a more equitable country.
They got theirs because they thought that it was all done just through their effort and goodness alone and never acknowledging that it was more social government that made it all possible. Now that all those government supports and checks and balances on the rich are removed, no one has a chance and these old boomers still believe that it’s all up to individual effort to get by in life.