“Yes don’t vote at all to get rid of fascism”

  • Fenrir @lemmings.world
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    1 day ago

    On the one hand, corporatist party, on the other, literal fascists. Yes, clearly there is no superior option.

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          14 hours ago

          It is a vote, and over 1.5 million Americans (excluding those for RFK) made such votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election#Results

          IMO, progressives (who’s not too bothered by Stein’s cozying up to Russia a bit) from California, most of New England, DC, Maryland, Hawaii, or Washington (state), and yet yammer on about how bad third parties are because they split the Democrat vote, are probably stupid, or at least ignorant, and should give some of the time they spend watching CNN or Vaush to reading election stats.

          • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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            12 hours ago

            how bad third parties are because they split the Democrat vote, are probably stupid, or at least ignorant, and should give some of the time they spend watching CNN or Vaush to reading election stats.

            Hey, I don’t need to comment because you said it all for me.

          • HalfSalesman@lemm.ee
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            12 hours ago

            Election stats? You ever hear the phrase “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”

            Stats on their own given a poor analysis of an average joe/jane can mislead just as much if not more than a talking head can.

            The core fact remains that voting for a third party under a first past the post system is risking permitting the greater evil to win.

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              4 hours ago

              Yes, I think it’s from Twain.

              I backed my assertions with stats, however poor you think they are as analysis.

              What do yo back up your assertions with, other than lame DNC, CNN, and Vaush talking points?

      • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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        12 hours ago

        I simply cannot grasp why some people believe voting 3rd party in a presidential election isn’t one of the dumbest possible things you can do in life.

        Like, beyond the fact that the 3rd party candidate with the most votes in 2024 got a whopping HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast, meaning a 3rd party literally cannot win, there’s still the reality that even if they did win, no 3rd party has A SINGLE MEMBER IN CONGRESS, so if a 3rd party presidential candidate actually won, they wouldn’t be able to do shit, because they’d have literally ZERO allies in Congress.

        I’m pretty sure anyone voting 3rd party for president has absolutely no clue how our government works. They have no concept of the reality they live in.

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          3 hours ago

          I simply cannot grasp why some people believe voting 3rd party in a presidential election isn’t one of the dumbest possible things you can do in life.

          You might want to say that to Michiganders who voted for Stein (and Oliver) because of Gaza and the US presence in the Middle East.

          The 2024 Presidential election isn’t the only one in US history: there have been 57 others.

          Trump had few allies in Congress before 2016, but now members are the Republican caucus are falling all over themselves to curry favour from him.

          I’m pretty sure anyone voting 3rd party for president has absolutely no clue how our government works. They have no concept of the reality they live in.

          You are so correct—as members of the herd generally are. I like people who resort to exaggerations, over generalizations, and distortions.