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Cake day: July 9th, 2023

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  • It sounds super counter intuitive but I recommend newbies weigh themselves multiple times a day for the first few weeks or months and write down the date and time of each new low (or use a tracking app) to get used to the idea that your weight fluctuates wildly throughout the day.

    Just because you got a bad weigh-in doesnt mean the diet didnt do anything all week. A salty carb heavy meal last night (that was still within calories) can fuck up a weigh-in bigtime.






  • Tesla isnt one company, its the parent company. Tesla Canada is a wholly owned subsidiary.

    But other than that you raise a fair point. It entirely depends on when the rebate is issued, it depends if its issued on the planned manufacture of the car, the car entering production, when its produced or when its sold. I assumed that when it was first registered for road use with the government with its first owner.

    We’re kind of splitting hairs on this given that its hypothetical until we figure out their rort. But if you look up a cars history of ownership, it doesnt show the manufacturer or the dealership. They own a car shaped asset with a hypothetical value, it isnt until money changes hands and the car is registered/taxed by the govt that it has an “owner” and that seemed the most likely point to issue any kind of rebate or incentive to produce EVs because thats the point thats hardest to do sneaky shit like try and scam the government.

    Yeah its probably against the rules, but Elon has no respect for rules.


  • If thats what they did How is it fraud?

    Companies can own assets, provided they filled out all the correct paperwork, paid the taxes and insurances or whatever Canada does they now “Own” the cars and can do with them as they please. Including sell them. Provided they dont misrepresent the cars as “brand new” and sell them as “used cars” then its not fraud.

    Doing it on this scale is dodgy as hell which is why the Govt froze the rebates. But I absolutely beleive Elon would do something like.this to prop up the sales numbers and stock price while forcing the Canadian govt to either make an issue of it (which means he can play victim) or let him get away with it. (Ego boost)


  • You seem to be under the impression that I approve. No, Elons a cunt.

    But follow me here… Tesla dealerships are OWNED by Tesla, but will almost certainly be a seperate company on paper. If only to limit liability. For a vehicle to be “sold” and to claim the EV rebates iit has to have an owner, so “Tesla Dealers LLC” buys the cars off “Tesla MV production PTY LTD” money changes hands, they legally register the cars under the business name and then dont drive them. Even if they arent Ford Motor Company certainly has a motor pool for execs and those cars will likely be owned by the company too.

    It happens all the time in brand new motor vehicle sales. More like 1 to 3 cars a month at a dealership, usually to push the dealership over a threshold for a “volume bonus” (Sell 10 Corollas this month and the dealership gets $20,000 from Toyota)

    IF THIS IS WHAT THEY DID - Tesla Canada buys a shitload off Tesla Corporate cheap, pays the registration and tax, claims the subsidies. Do it with the oldest stock on the books to get rid of it and pump up Teslas plunging sales and stock and when the Canadian government cries “foul” (justifiably) Elon and Donny can shout about how its illegal and Canada is engaging in a trade war on private businesses who didnt break any laws… Sound like.something Elon and Donny would cook up?

    I wouldnt be surprised if they try and ship some of these “used” cars into the US and then cancel the registration to get the money back. I dont know how the taxes and stuff works on “used” cars. I’m just saying the basic practice isnt illegal and happens all the time and it doesnt mean they commited outright fraud. They definitely are doing something dodgy.