These same things have been happening for two decades: The Patriot Act, extraordinary rendition (ie, kidnappings), foreign black sites (Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, etc), torture, and genocide against civilians. Obama even invented the term ‘enemy combatant’ so his military wouldn’t have to record how many civilians their drones were killing. Hell, Tom Homan was an Obama appointee.
AND YOU ALL VOTED FOR IT.
AS DID I.
We could have stopped this in its tracks, but we rewarded it, and now it’s normal.
Oh, shut the hell up. You damn well that kidnapping college students off the streets to send them to prison labor camps is SEVERAL STEPS beyond anything that happened in the past.
For real, fuck off. Do something productive. Be better.
And also, be less of a pathetic liar. Obama did not invent the phrase “enemy combatant”. I was there when GWB used it every damn day.
I am honestly this close to believing that a bunch of online Marxist-Leninists are actually MAGA operatives seeking to normalize Trump’s actions. I just don’t see what a real leftist movement has to gain from trying to convince us things are business as usual when they so clearly aren’t.
Did you happen to see the video of Trump and Obama yukking it up together at Jimmy Carter’s funeral? This was, what, mere weeks after consistently making Trump/Hitler comparisons.
I think if you look at the practices I described above and how they’ve escalated and become normalized over time, across multiple Democratic and Republican presidencies, that yes, it’s hard to come to a reasonable conclusion that there’s a meaningful difference between what’s happening now and what happened in the 2000’s and 2010’s.
And that’s particularly true because Obama and Bush were re-elected and thus rewarded for escalating fascism in America.
The only difference is that we’re getting a closer view to it and the information isn’t coming out in leaked or declassified documents. It’s always been just as sensational as the video we saw yesterday.
It’s like the pilot of a plane saying “well I warned you we were going to crash into that mountain, you idiot.” Not only did they fail to avoid it, they apparently had no plan in place for what to do after they crashed the damn plane.
This whole community skews hard towards dumb neolib slop. I still follow it because it’s honestly kind of fascinating to watch liberals respond to any pushback with the same blind rage that you’d encounter on r/conservative. The replies to your comment are a perfect example.
These memes are stupid.
These same things have been happening for two decades: The Patriot Act, extraordinary rendition (ie, kidnappings), foreign black sites (Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, etc), torture, and genocide against civilians. Obama even invented the term ‘enemy combatant’ so his military wouldn’t have to record how many civilians their drones were killing. Hell, Tom Homan was an Obama appointee.
AND YOU ALL VOTED FOR IT.
AS DID I.
We could have stopped this in its tracks, but we rewarded it, and now it’s normal.
Oh, shut the hell up. You damn well that kidnapping college students off the streets to send them to prison labor camps is SEVERAL STEPS beyond anything that happened in the past.
For real, fuck off. Do something productive. Be better.
And also, be less of a pathetic liar. Obama did not invent the phrase “enemy combatant”. I was there when GWB used it every damn day.
I am honestly this close to believing that a bunch of online Marxist-Leninists are actually MAGA operatives seeking to normalize Trump’s actions. I just don’t see what a real leftist movement has to gain from trying to convince us things are business as usual when they so clearly aren’t.
This happened regularly, and was reported on, during the War on Terror. Teens and the elderly were likewise kidnapped.
The difference is there wasn’t a camera on every corner.
Do some introspection here, and maybe, I dunno, read a history book.
You won’t fool anyone with your revisionist history lesson. You’re just sad and pathetic.
You’re a bad liar lol
Everything really is all the same to you isn’t it. You can’t see any degree of separation.
Did you happen to see the video of Trump and Obama yukking it up together at Jimmy Carter’s funeral? This was, what, mere weeks after consistently making Trump/Hitler comparisons.
I think if you look at the practices I described above and how they’ve escalated and become normalized over time, across multiple Democratic and Republican presidencies, that yes, it’s hard to come to a reasonable conclusion that there’s a meaningful difference between what’s happening now and what happened in the 2000’s and 2010’s.
And that’s particularly true because Obama and Bush were re-elected and thus rewarded for escalating fascism in America.
The only difference is that we’re getting a closer view to it and the information isn’t coming out in leaked or declassified documents. It’s always been just as sensational as the video we saw yesterday.
Did I see two people making polite conversation at a fucking funeral? Yeah thanks for showing everything is the same to you. Have at your next one.
LOL
Thank you for your commentary.
Some of us didn’t vote for it
I respect you for that tremendously. I didn’t vote for it every time, but Obama was the last straw for me, and is why I vote Green now.
It’s the difference between nibbles and chomps.
They’re similar, but not the same.
It’s like the pilot of a plane saying “well I warned you we were going to crash into that mountain, you idiot.” Not only did they fail to avoid it, they apparently had no plan in place for what to do after they crashed the damn plane.
This whole community skews hard towards dumb neolib slop. I still follow it because it’s honestly kind of fascinating to watch liberals respond to any pushback with the same blind rage that you’d encounter on r/conservative. The replies to your comment are a perfect example.
It’s like they slept through the Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations.
I suppose, in a way, they did.