• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    14 days ago

    Wow, the Gazan civilians must have done something really serious to merit being attacked like this, ending the cease fire…

    Right? Um… right? /s

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    14 days ago

    I don’t care who gets bitchy over this;

    America chose bald faced fascism and genocide, over the chance to end genocide and not-fascism.

    Suck eggs, whenever you can save up for them. The stay-at-homes are just as guilty.

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          That was the false sense of superiority choice, not the end genocide choice.

          You have to consider the choices’ actual effects on the world.

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            13 days ago

            Making the correct choice has nothing to do with feeling better than others, it simply is the correct thing to do.

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                12 days ago

                If dead people had something to say i don’t think they would be happy about the parties that backed their genocide

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                  Yeah man, do whatever you can to absolve your inaction. I bet they appreciate it. Because if Harris was president and this attack did not happen then I assume you’re pretty culpable. But hey- you “followed your conscience.” Great stuff.

                  I tell people to grow up all the time. Realize the world isn’t perfect but sometimes you gotta make dirty decisions to bring about the greater good. But you’d rather feel smug than give a shit and actually have to make a hard decision. Hopefully you’re just young and have time to grow. Honestly.

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                12 days ago

                There’s a big amount of red voters unhappy with trump but that voted for him because in their eyes he’s “lesser evil” than blue and because “there’s no alternative”.

                Once a third party gain enough traction to break the narrative that only red or blue can win it will be a landslide. In europe third parties wins all the time.

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                  12 days ago

                  What I mean is that Republicans are going to do everything they can to stop or rig elections so they don’t have electoral consequences for Trump. Party organizing is going to need to take place outside of electoralism.

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      14 days ago

      Suck eggs = children are dying and I’m gloating over it.

      Anything to own the lefties though, eh.

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    I would like ANYONE to stick a camera into the face of these Arab and Muslim leaders who told their followers to help get trump elected because they didn’t think Joe Biden was acting fast enough or giving them the attention they wanted and ask them if their feelings are still hurt with news like this.

    I’m sure the people of Gaza are so pleased with them and their stupidity

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      13 days ago

      BuT dOn’T vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe JoE!!1!1! ThE PrIcE Of EgGS!1!1!

      And the trump admin wants to build seaside resorts in the purged Gaza then told us to STFu about eggs while the price more than doubled.

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        I sure hope everyone who said “Genocide Joe” and “Kamala is a cop” sleeps well every night. Also those 100,000 Dem protest voters in Michigan.

        You did it guys, you saved Gaza.

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            12 days ago

            Well enjoy Trump and the complete destruction of Gaza. Hey you did it good job.

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              Hey you did it good job.

              Tell you what, why dont you Dem centrists reply back and admit, right here right now, that genocide occurred on Bidens watch with his direct assistance and encouragement.

              If you cant admit that, then you’re not communicating in good faith.

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            Well, I know that I did what I could to reduce the death toll, not my fault that idiots ruined it by grandstanding.

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              Lmao what did you do? Let me guess, you called your representative and asked them nicely to “stop genociding pwetty please but don’t worry I’m still gonna vote for you either way”

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                I looked at the two options that the Electoral College would allow and picked Harris because she was more capable of the concept of empathy than Trump.

                I mean if my person won, segregation would still be illegal in Federal Contracts. So… there’s that.

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      Both Trump and Biden/Harris are terrible choices for Palestine. Having said that, count the number of Palestinian casualties under Biden and the number of Palestinian casualties under Trump. I’ll wait.

      Also count the number of weeks of ceasefire brokered by Trump vs Biden.

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          13 days ago

          A couple months ago when his envoy, Steve Witkoff, made Netanyahu meet him during Shabbat despite Netanyahu’s objections, and pressured him to accept the ceasefire deal.

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            Rofl that was JOE BIDEN’S ceasefire deal, Trump just happened to take office right before it was finalized.

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              Joe Biden presented the deal in May 2024 and Netanyahu quickly rejected it. It’s only when Steve Witkoff, Trump’s envoy, forced Netanyahu to meet during Shabbat and pressured him to take the deal that it the ceasefire actually happened, shortly before Trump’s inauguration.

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        The number of death in the last 3 month is comparable to the number of deaths in the last 4 years, is that what you are saying?

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          No, it is not comparable in any way shape or form. There have been hundreds of thousand of casualties under Biden’s presidency.

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          If your bridge is as useless as your comment, probably not.

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    12 days ago

    so long as trump, bibi, putin, and their sycophants are in power, pretty much every man woman and child in gaza is living on borrowed time.

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    14 days ago

    …yet i was told that the biden genocide was somehow worse…cake and eat it shit…

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        Unsupporting the red and blue party is the correct thing to do and what will ultimately lead to a positive change. The duopoly party narrative is holding on a really thin line because everyone is unsatisfied on both sides, in europe third parties win plenty of times.

        If you throw your trash out of the window that isn’t going to change world pollution but you don’t do that because we live in a society and everyone is supposed to do his part.

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          The way US elections work it’s mathematically impossible to have a viable 3rd party. We can’t just do it like Europe.

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              Most US elections, in particular the Presidential one, are first past the post and winner take all. There’s no coalitions or anything. Only one party can win. If the Democrats, for example, split into a Moderates and a Progressives party, the election landscape will go from this:

              • Democrats ~50%

              • Republicans ~50%

              To this:

              • Moderates ~30%

              • Progressives ~20%

              • Republicans ~50%

              And Republicans are guaranteed a win. The Republicans don’t win 50% of the government, they get the whole government. Progressives and Moderates get nothing. The only possible way to defeat the Republicans is by combining the Progressives and Moderates into a single party.

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                  The third party. And if the Democrats and Republicans ever want to be viable again, they’ll have to join with each other or with the 3rd party, depending on which is closer ideologically. So we’re back to 2 parties.

                  And by the way, support for any 3rd parties in the US is currently at less than 5%, nowhere close to the >50‰ required to make this scenario plausible. It has happened before, though not in the last 150 years, usually with the total collapse of one of the two parties. Andrew Jackson personally caused the collapse of the existing parties by basically turning them into pro-Jackson and anti-Jackson parties. And then a few decades later the anti-Jackson party itself completely split over the question of slavery, and then the Civil War created the two parties we have today, Democrats and Republicans. The two parties almost completely swapped supporters and positions in the 1960s due to Nixon’s “Southern Strategy”, but the two ideological groups of voters have been the same since the mid-1800s even though they’ve changed names.

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      What a strawman of an argument you’ve created. That was never an argument being made, it was that genocide wouldn’t be any worse because genocide is genocide.

      And how is this at all different from any of the strikes Biden agreed on that resulted in mass deaths?

      Oh and the cake you’re laughing about? Those are children’s lives. Get some perspective and stop reveling in misery.

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          It’s more dumb to think killing everyone is any different to killing everyone.

          Genocide brings about the death of the whole cultural group.

          There is no little or big genocide, it is all genocide.