President Donald Trump isn’t attending the dignified transfer of four American soldiers who died in Lithuania, because he has instead chosen to attend a Saudi-backed golf tournament at his country club in Doral, Florida.

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    17 hours ago

    Not every Nazi was Hitler. But being upset that Hitler didn’t respect his troops is fucking stupid. If thats even on your list of criticisms for Hitler than I think something is wrong with your perspective. And if you did you would be saying that Nazis deserve respect. They don’t. And neither do American troops.

    The only ones that deserve respect are the ones that desert and fight against the harms that they did.

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        14 hours ago

        I just have an actual moral compass instead of trying to find nuance for celebrating war criminals.

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          13 hours ago

          These particular people weren’t war criminals, you’re the one missing nuance to cram your narrative into inappropriate situations.

          Your mother may be a whore but I’m still the asshole if I scream it at her corpse during her funeral.

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            I’m still the asshole if I scream it at her corpse during her funeral.

            How’d you feel when bin Laden was killed? Did people mourn respectfully, and should they have? Or do the actions of the organization you’re fighting for affect whether you deserve to be treated respectfully?

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              I throught it was fucked up for a number of reasons that they beheaded him and dumped his corpse at sea so he couldn’t have a traditional Muslim service.

              Some did surely, those in his organization especially so and I don’t honestly think that helps your point but rather hurts it.

              They don’t, treating the dead well is about you not them. They can’t be a piece of shit but you absolutely can be.

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            13 hours ago

            Any member of ISIS is enabling the terrorism of ISIS whether they work at a desk job or perform direct violence.

            This goes the same for the terrorist organization that is the US military.

            The only difference between me and you is consistency. I call all members of these organizations terrorist. You seem to want to pretend like there is “nuance” for one and not the other.

            Go ahead. Tell me about the nuance for people that join ISIS and support their cause.

            Because we’re not arguing nuance. You’re just arguing that the US military isn’t a terrorist organization. Which it is absolutely is. I’ll have that conversation. But don’t act like there is “nuance” here.

            Also, there is a huge difference between “honoring” a dead soldier and “screaming at their funeral”. I’m saying these soldiers do not deserve honor. What they did was not at all honorable.

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              No one is saying otherwise but again this isn’t isis for one.

              Sure if that makes you feel better.

              I haven’t actually said they aren’t terrorist, you simply assume that to be the case because I show the dead respect. That difference therefore would be basic morality, the Geneva convention has provisions on how to treat the dead for a reason.

              Why would I need to? I don’t care what they do, once they’re dead it doesn’t really matter much. If you want to take out your hate on the defenseless I think that says more about you than them.

              Point to one time where I said the US military is not a terrorist organization, go ahead I’ll wait.

              You’re literally screaming at their funeral, you’ve made a discussion about the leader of these dead folks being disrespectful to their subordinates who have passed away and you’ve found a way to make it about yourself and your biases and feelings.