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      To be fair, that was also 6 years ago. A lot can happen in 6 years. That was pre-COVID for instance. I think just about everyone can say we’re in a totally different place now than we were then, even without the Epstein aspect.

      That being said, I always have pause when there’s any sort of whistleblower or accuser of a powerful individual that commits suicide. Even if the suicide itself is accurate and clearly intentional, the circumstances surrounding it are always murky and questionable. Especially questions of threats and coercion leading up to it.

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        I mean, there was this whole thing of her getting in a huge car accident just a few months ago. There was definitely some weird stuff going on.

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      Well, people can do things that they would later regret in a moment of intense grief, or desperation.

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    With out reading any details the words Epstein and suicide in the same sentence make me believe this is a lie.

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        Damn, I hadn’t heard about her husband being abusive. It’s striking to me that Giuffre was 41 when she died, and had been married to her husband for 22 years, meaning she was around 19 when they married. That’s very young, and so soon after being sex trafficked by Maxwell and Epstein.

        It’s unclear how far back the abuse by her husband stretched back, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was present to some degree for their entire relationship. And surviving abuse at the hands of Epstein and co may well have made her more vulnerable. Fucking hell.

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        Didn’t she publication state recently that she was terminally ill as well? Something like liver failure. Maybe she chose to go on her terms in the end.

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      It’s almost as if the details were right there a single finger tap or click away.

      Or at least as a starting point for your own research.

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        Ahh yes an NBC news article. Forgive me if I don’t take their word as gospel. They called Jeffrey Epsteins death an apparent suicide too.

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          You’re absolutely right. The NBC article is gash.

          I’m not sure what your comment is trying to prove though?

          If you were engaged enough to comment your theory on the article, then surely you were engaged enough to read the article; see in the first couple of paragraphs that the news was the result of a family statement; search for that statement; find a People article with further details on the death (which admittedly problematic as it’s an exclusive article, meaning options for corroboration are few); but noting that the claim initially came from a family member along with a brother that was staying with her - two people who I’m making an assumption are the most likely to challenge any kind of coverup?

          I just don’t understand the logic of throwing a theory out there and proudly claiming that you haven’t read the article? I do understand that I came across as a cunt in that initial reply and I apologise to you directly, but I’m interested in dissenting opinion as always.

          To be clear, I’m not saying you’re 100% wrong - I’m saying there’s very little in the way of currently available facts to support your assertion.

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            What was my comment trying to prove? Nothing really. I just said the first thing that popped into my head when I saw that headline.

             I didn't intend to come across as bragging that I didn't read the details in the article. I wasn't celebrating ignorance. I was trying to express my distrust of the media coverage surrounding all Epstein victims, witnesses, and whistleblowers in general. Especially those who, in the past, have released statements proclaiming that if they are found dead it is NOT suicide.