• Wilco@lemm.ee
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    12 hours ago

    No. They do no matter what. Once they tread on the Fourth the grumblings about resistance, rebellion, or revolt become a legal defense of our Constitutional rights. These people immediately get “promoted” and become a demest8c threat to the Constitution. It would then become open hunting season on ICE, with defending the Constitution becoming the legal defense. The only reason it hasn’t happened yet is because ICE is targeting weak willed areas. They are moving fast and they also happen to be getting a large percentage of illegals with only occasional “mistakes”.

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      10 hours ago

      There’s a court case right now. He’s suing the ability of federal judges to make essentially precedence matter.

      If he wins this case in the Supreme Court, All executive orders are law until they are challenged in court, and if one person wins a judgment, It will have zero effect on other like cases.

      So the playbook is he writes an executive order that ice doesn’t need to show warrants, ice doesn’t show warrant, each individual that is f***** over by this executive order has to take it to court individually, assuming they’re not already in a South American prison.

      We’re a couple of judgments away from absolute dictatorship.

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        It’s also reported that Trump’s people are working on suspending habeas corpus. This would remove your right to challenge your arbitrary imprisonment in court. So they will be able to disappear anyone, forever, with no reason and no legal recourse. Effectively Trump will then be an absolute dictator.

        https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-stephen-miller-says-trump-administration-is-actively-looking-at-suspending-habeas-corpus

        Habeas corpus (/ˈheɪbiəs ˈkɔːrpəs/ ⓘ; from Medieval Latin, lit. ‘you should have the body’) is a legal procedure by which a report can be made to a court alleging the unlawful detention or imprisonment of an individual, and requesting that the court order the individual’s custodian (usually a prison official) to bring the prisoner to court, to determine whether their detention is lawful. Relief, when available, is generally governed by equitable principles.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus

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        8 hours ago

        They can make whatever laws they want. This is a constitutional matter. It can only be changed by a 2/3s majority vote of the house and senate.

        ICE can say they don’t need a warrant. Fuck them up if they don’t have one … a warrant is required.

        The president can say ICE doesnt need a warrant … fuck him, he doesn’t have the authority … they do.

        The Supreme Court can say ICE doesnt need a warrant … fuck them, they do not have the authority … a warrant is still needed.

        Source: The Constitution

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          If nothing physically stops them from doing what they say they can do, then they can do it, and the constitution is meaningless. This is what is happening, they are proving the constitution is meaningless.

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            4 hours ago

            Eventually ICE will stumble upon someone with a strong interest in the Second Amendment and get themselves physically stopped. Because ICE’s actions are unconstitutional they will be considered illegal, thus whatever is done to stop them will be legal.

            It is only a matter of time and this story will be in the news. MAGA thinks they can tread upon the Constitution, but the Constitution lays coiled and has sharp fangs.

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              I applaud your optimism. But anyone resisting ICE with armed force will be killed by a SWAT team and immediately branded a terrorist by all the media.