• DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    20 hours ago

    Autocracy does not exist. There is no example in history of a single person holding unilateral control over an entire nation, its people, and its industry. There are plenty of examples of things that look like autocracy on the surface, but power is fundamentally built in collaboration and hierarchy, and each of those cases was simply the captain or figurehead of a larger power structure that pulled all the strings. This is important because a belief in dictatorship of an individual leads to an obsession with the individual rather than the power structure behind them that is ultimately responsible.

    If you went back in time and put a bullet between Hitler’s eyes in 1920 the Nazis would still rise to power in Germany in the 30s, because the Nazis were simply the face of German nationalists and capitalists who saw the crises of their time and decided to let the monsters off the leash in exchange for a steady supply of slave labor and a complete decimation of labor unionists and socialists. In a similar vein, Trump is merely the chief idiot and Judas goat for American capital scrambling to adapt to a world where their hegemony is rapidly deteriorating and the crises of capitalism are no longer able to simply be outsourced through wanton imperialism. He is simply Foucault’s boomerang come home at long last. Concentrating purely on him and the handful of other chief idiots around him does no good, because if you get rid of him he will simply be replaced by the machine that gave rise to him to begin with.

    And this leads to my ultimate point here: the American system yearns for a Trump. The US was built from the ground up to serve the interests of capital, to prioritize those who have an iron grip on the engines of economic might, whether those be cotton plantations, steel mills, or data centers. This is not the first time the US has thrown minorities into camps, or stamped its boot on the face of other countries and peoples, or torn off the mask of the rule of law in favor of the rule of force, and so long as the system remains as is it will not be the last time either. If you fixate on Trump, then you will go back to sleep in four years and ignore the countless crimes of his successors, and the outcome will be the same.

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      I think your thesis is wrong. I think if you looked Hitler there is a chance that the extremists never unified and eventually became irrelevant.

      I think the unifying force is a critical component. I don’t JD Vance could continue Trump’s mission alone.

      I have no idea tho.

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      19 hours ago

      I was thinking recently about whether the popular liberal conception of a “dictator” was even feasible, and you’ve just crystallized my opinion that it was always a childish model of reality.

      When do you think it originated? Was it during the Cold War with portrayals of Stalin and Mao?

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        17 hours ago

        The modern conception definitely spawned as part of the larger “authoritarianism” propaganda at the start of the Cold War. I’d say the idea that one person rules with an iron fist is the simplistic view of politics stretching back throughout civilization though, so it’s not exactly an original idea.

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    Most people that spout the 2nd amendment are maga trumpers. Don’t underestimate the amount of people that voted for him, still support, and will continue to support him deep into a dictatorship.

    Just sayin’, don’t think this shit’ll be easy. Especially if we’re all waiting for somebody else to do it.

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    This like driving in a high speed vehicle towards a cliff that you know the car and the driver and the passengers won’t survive … and everyone arguing that the car won’t fly off the cliff

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      9 hours ago

      Very few truly blue states, we have blue cities and red rural areas, very hard to make that work in a civil war. For instance I’m in the deep south but in a capital city, there are rainbow crosswalks and Ukraine flags everywhere. We can’t succeed from our state unfortunately but we aren’t turning red either.

      However all Level 1 Trauma Centers are in blue cities, would be interesting to see what happened if we turned those off for the rural voters.

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      Fuck that, we proclaim to be the rightful USA, and declare the current administration to be an unlawful government and traitors to the republic.

      We seize DC and restore the rule of law.

      And keep the red states as territories, they don’t get statehood this time. Not making the same mistake as the union did in the Civil War. We’re doing a full reconstruction this time.

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          That’s good because I think you were looking for state secession. Succession is the action or process of inheriting a title, office, property, etc.

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        What value do red states states bring to the table? I say let them have their shit holes for a while. Maybe that will disabuse them of this idea that cities are useless godless trash fires with no value. Then they can agree to accept first world values and we let them mooch. I want to help those who deserve it but we got into this mess from a hatred of the principles which makes countries decent. Conservatives won’t learn without feeling the consequences of their trash policies. We’ve been coddling red states just by the way the US exists today.

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        Removing statehood would probably lead to more revolt and civil war.

        A proper reconstruction for 20 years or so and baring current elected Republicans from office for life, barring their 1st generation descendants, actually trying traitors with treason this time, bolster the education system, un-gerrymander the voting districts, ensure everyone has easy access to voting, automatically register all citizens to vote, do away with the electoral college, and that should just about take care of it.

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      13 hours ago

      blue balkanization, all the blue states, balkanize while excluding the red ones, also expelling the gop from all political positions.