Former President Joe Biden's speech is marked with long pauses and a halting delivery in a recording of his interview about classified documents released Friday.
VERY STABLE, in all caps, apparently. Because that’s how stable people type all the time. You’re also not supposed to take anything he says seriously, y’know…like every other stable and speaking person. That’s how that works.
Right? Who takes what one of the most powerful people in the world says seriously? If you don’t like it it’s just a prank, bro! Comedy is so back! You’re being sent to Libya or Rwanda or El Salvador for a sketch! Why aren’t you laughing?
Yep an Administration is more than just the president. It’s the competent people that surround him. Instead of having a president suffering from lapses surrounded by some of the best most competent people. Now we have an idiot surrounded by sycophants and sociopaths. This is so much better/s
Yep an Administration is more than just the president. It’s the competent people that surround him.
Yeah, having a bunch of anti-worker, pro-coporate, war-mongers led to people being desperate enough to vote for Trump. Maybe Biden should have done something about that when he had the chance, so that people wouldn’t be so disenfranchised with the Democrats that made Trump seem eligible.
Yes he should have I agree. But I also think that a lot of the people screeching about Gaza Etc should not have Amplified fascist talking points and made it worse. The fact that a lot of these people thought Trump was better than Biden simply because people weren’t talking about Trump being exactly the same or worse is just as damning as anything the Democrats did. And it’s pathetic to see so many of you try to shirk any blame for this and put it all on the democrats. They definitely deserve their fair share. But so do you all.
Which fascist talking points? That genocide is unpopular? That screwing over the working class was a bad idea? That alienating your voter-base during an election is a bad idea? That putting up a candidate that were in clear cognitive decline was a bad idea?
If the Democrats had listened to us, instead of handing the election to Trump on a silver platter, we wouldn’t be where we are today. We spent all our time calling out Biden and the Democrats specfically to avoid getting Trump reelected. The Democratic leadership are the ones that told us to fuck off when we tried to get them to stop making obvious mistakes, and start running serious candidates.
It’s pretty sad if you don’t even know, Steve Bannon said it himself. Flood the zone. For any talk about the Republicans or Trump’s stance in particular. There were hundreds to thousands of more articles or news stories focusing only on Biden.
It was ignorant, if not down right foolish to think that dog piling on the Democrats in the middle of a contentious election was going to change things for the better. We’ve got 50 plus years of evidence to the contrary. None of this is a defense of Democrats or an excuse. They all need to be replaced. Democrats and Republicans and ultimately all national parties need to be outlawed and dissolved. But the left needs to do better, and focus on things other than Purity tests. When both options are shitty we need to stop effectively aiding the shittiest.
Running unpopular candidates with unpopular positions is a bad idea. And being unwilling to call the DNC out for it is why we got such terrible candidates. Biden was the Emperor with New Clothes, and everyone could clearly see that. To place the blame on those who wanted a candidate that was popular with voters, instead of a naked emperor is disingenuous.
You saw the party hide the mental decline of the guy with his finger on the nuclear button.
That’s unacceptable under trump and unacceptable under biden. We can’t make that mistake again. Avoiding talking about it guarantees it will happen again.
If liberals can still bi**tch about Nader and Gore 25 years later I can be a little salty over a president that’s been gone 100 days. They lied about the mental capacity of someone that could start a nuclear war, they lied about wanting to protect the lives of Palestinians, and that’s just the lies they’ve been caught in
They lied about the mental capacity of someone that could start a nuclear war…
Oh my God! Biden might fall asleep and rest his head on the big red button and start World War III! Thank God we now have a very stable genius who will start a nuclear war just because he thinks it will make him look tough.
That you think the two are remotely similar, shows how disingenuous you are. That you imply that this was unusual or even noteworthy at this point. Implies your ignorance of even relatively recent history. You do realize you’ve breached your instances echo chambers.
I never actually advocated for either candidate. But we told you it was going to be a Democrat or Republican regardless of what we wanted. But people like yourself actively ignored what was actually on the ballot. Instead campaigning to assist the fascist. Which is unsurprising. Someone from a pro authoritarian instance feeling more comfortable getting a fellow authoritarian elected.
We all want better. But we’ll never achieve it. Because so many of you fail to understand the basic assignment or options available. Doing more harm than good in all the uninformed flailing.
Liberals will never get anywhere until they realize their own party is complicit in that fascism. It didn’t happen in a vacuum. Fascism always is enabled by a weak, or perceived weak, liberal party.
Liberals always claim they want better but they proceed to vote for the things that are preventing things from getting better. They’re the greatest enemies to progress, they talk as if they want change, but they demand things stay the same
some are definitely sycophants; but i think most are useful idiots and i think you’re seeing here how effectively they’re being redirected by shills and other idiots to the re-frame the discourse away from biden and onto trump; i hope you continue to persist despite their downvotes and their attempts to goad you into getting banned or making you turn away from your efforts.
“Don’t worry about Trump guys, he’s doing great! Keep up the good fight against Joe Biden, he’s the real enemy! I’m totally a real person that 100% came up with this original thought that I 100% believe in on my own.”
The current president is doing terrible. But Trump wouldn’t be president if Biden hadn’t been such a terrible president.
Maybe Biden should have fought for the people he proposed to represent, so that everyone wouldn’t be so desperate to see the system burn down that they were willing to vote for Trump.
the significance here is that one of the 2 major parties attempted to push him as a presidential candidate until his mental condition became publicly unavoidable and would lead to further questions of why the genocide was allowed persist.
this also explains why trump was never prosecuted and barred from becoming the next president and sweeping these questions under the rug to re-frame the focus of discussion on trump is a clear appeal to the pointless and neverending culture war that prevents us from fighting the class struggle that tried to push biden into the presidency and allow trump to take it.
What part? Pointing out that the Democrats clear failures led to Trump being elected?
It seems like people who point out why Trump got elected should be taken seriously instead of being dismissed. Maybe learning and avoiding the obvious mistakes of the past is a good idea.
It’s the part where no one was actually pointing out that the Republicans were the same or worse. I’m not defending the Democrats. I’m just calling you all out for helping Republicans.
Me and a lot of others were pointing out that the Republicans were worse, and that’s why we wanted Democrats to pick a candidate that the voters actually wanted. Your revisionist history is a bad faith attempt to shift blame from those that refuse to learn why they keep losing elections to a fascist party.
I was one of those people by the way. So why are you even arguing with me? And it’s not revisionist history. It’s open history for all to see. The coverage was massively one-sided. So much so that many Palestinians legitimately thought Trump would be better. The only one practicing revisionist history here is you If you deny that. Or the fact that everyone constantly and only was criticizing Biden, if that wasn’t you then why you defending the ones that did? Because the receipts are all over lemmy and the mass media
I’m arguing with you because you are lying. Plenty of people said that the Republicans are worse. I don’t think the coverage was one sided, it’s just that the Democrats couldn’t see how bad their candidate was. Yes, some voters are dumb, and thought Trump would be better, that’s how voters are. Maybe if we could have pointed to a party that was actually trying to fix things, we could have had better ammo to sway them.
I saw plenty of people criticizing Trump AND Biden. Saying that everyone constantly and only criticized Biden is openly false.
Then point out a single lie. Yes plenty of people said it in isolation. It wasn’t enough. Has the same goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And we are here.
If you don’t think the coverage was one-sided that’s literally on you. Pick any day span from the last election cycle and count the average of anti-biden post and compare that to the average of any post criticizing trump or republicans. Even here in leftyville it was wildly skewed. And then understand that the mass media was far far worse
You’re not to my left. Not by a long shot. Your just ignorant or disingenuous.
Though please do tell. What part of pointing out that the genocide in Palestine wasn’t on the ballot. And that regardless of who we wanted or what we wanted. It was either going to be a democrat or a republican that would win. And we would definitely just like one of them winning more. What part of that makes me economically right wing?
Though please do tell. What part of pointing out that the genocide in Palestine wasn’t on the ballot. And that regardless of who we wanted or what we wanted. It was either going to be a democrat or a republican that would win. And we would definitely just like one of them winning more.
I don’t really believe that centrists have a preference as long as they got their genocide. As far as I’m concerned, this is just gloating that you have two parties representing the interests of the genocidal.
What part of that makes me economically right wing?
It’s neat how you have to add “economically” because you know that it doesn’t get much further to the right than genocide support.
Be consistent in something other than your hypocrisy. How is someone a Centrist or right wing economically simply by acknowledging the outcomes of right wing systems?
K, but he’s no longer the president.
How is the current president doing?
VERY STABLE, in all caps, apparently. Because that’s how stable people type all the time. You’re also not supposed to take anything he says seriously, y’know…like every other stable and speaking person. That’s how that works.
Right? Who takes what one of the most powerful people in the world says seriously? If you don’t like it it’s just a prank, bro! Comedy is so back! You’re being sent to Libya or Rwanda or El Salvador for a sketch! Why aren’t you laughing?
Yep an Administration is more than just the president. It’s the competent people that surround him. Instead of having a president suffering from lapses surrounded by some of the best most competent people. Now we have an idiot surrounded by sycophants and sociopaths. This is so much better/s
Yeah, having a bunch of anti-worker, pro-coporate, war-mongers led to people being desperate enough to vote for Trump. Maybe Biden should have done something about that when he had the chance, so that people wouldn’t be so disenfranchised with the Democrats that made Trump seem eligible.
Yes he should have I agree. But I also think that a lot of the people screeching about Gaza Etc should not have Amplified fascist talking points and made it worse. The fact that a lot of these people thought Trump was better than Biden simply because people weren’t talking about Trump being exactly the same or worse is just as damning as anything the Democrats did. And it’s pathetic to see so many of you try to shirk any blame for this and put it all on the democrats. They definitely deserve their fair share. But so do you all.
Which fascist talking points? That genocide is unpopular? That screwing over the working class was a bad idea? That alienating your voter-base during an election is a bad idea? That putting up a candidate that were in clear cognitive decline was a bad idea?
If the Democrats had listened to us, instead of handing the election to Trump on a silver platter, we wouldn’t be where we are today. We spent all our time calling out Biden and the Democrats specfically to avoid getting Trump reelected. The Democratic leadership are the ones that told us to fuck off when we tried to get them to stop making obvious mistakes, and start running serious candidates.
It’s pretty sad if you don’t even know, Steve Bannon said it himself. Flood the zone. For any talk about the Republicans or Trump’s stance in particular. There were hundreds to thousands of more articles or news stories focusing only on Biden.
It was ignorant, if not down right foolish to think that dog piling on the Democrats in the middle of a contentious election was going to change things for the better. We’ve got 50 plus years of evidence to the contrary. None of this is a defense of Democrats or an excuse. They all need to be replaced. Democrats and Republicans and ultimately all national parties need to be outlawed and dissolved. But the left needs to do better, and focus on things other than Purity tests. When both options are shitty we need to stop effectively aiding the shittiest.
Running unpopular candidates with unpopular positions is a bad idea. And being unwilling to call the DNC out for it is why we got such terrible candidates. Biden was the Emperor with New Clothes, and everyone could clearly see that. To place the blame on those who wanted a candidate that was popular with voters, instead of a naked emperor is disingenuous.
As opposed to the sycophants that hid biden’s mental decline?
Biden hasn’t been president for over a hundred days now perhaps you should get a life
You saw the party hide the mental decline of the guy with his finger on the nuclear button.
That’s unacceptable under trump and unacceptable under biden. We can’t make that mistake again. Avoiding talking about it guarantees it will happen again.
It was also unacceptable under Reagan. At this point I think we can call it a tradition.
Personally, I’d like democrats to be better than that.
If liberals can still bi**tch about Nader and Gore 25 years later I can be a little salty over a president that’s been gone 100 days. They lied about the mental capacity of someone that could start a nuclear war, they lied about wanting to protect the lives of Palestinians, and that’s just the lies they’ve been caught in
Oh my God! Biden might fall asleep and rest his head on the big red button and start World War III! Thank God we now have a very stable genius who will start a nuclear war just because he thinks it will make him look tough.
Claiming it was only about him falling asleep is disingenuous. He was senile as fuck and so is the current pedo in office.
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it must be really hard living in a delusional State all the time
The only thing delusional is liberals thinking they are a progressive left wing party and not enablers of fascism.
That you think the two are remotely similar, shows how disingenuous you are. That you imply that this was unusual or even noteworthy at this point. Implies your ignorance of even relatively recent history. You do realize you’ve breached your instances echo chambers.
I never actually advocated for either candidate. But we told you it was going to be a Democrat or Republican regardless of what we wanted. But people like yourself actively ignored what was actually on the ballot. Instead campaigning to assist the fascist. Which is unsurprising. Someone from a pro authoritarian instance feeling more comfortable getting a fellow authoritarian elected.
We all want better. But we’ll never achieve it. Because so many of you fail to understand the basic assignment or options available. Doing more harm than good in all the uninformed flailing.
Liberals will never get anywhere until they realize their own party is complicit in that fascism. It didn’t happen in a vacuum. Fascism always is enabled by a weak, or perceived weak, liberal party.
Liberals always claim they want better but they proceed to vote for the things that are preventing things from getting better. They’re the greatest enemies to progress, they talk as if they want change, but they demand things stay the same
I agree and tankies like you are just as bad
Tankie is to liberal what woke is to maga
centrists really don’t like it when you point out that they shriek “tankie” at the left while kissing republican ass.
some are definitely sycophants; but i think most are useful idiots and i think you’re seeing here how effectively they’re being redirected by shills and other idiots to the re-frame the discourse away from biden and onto trump; i hope you continue to persist despite their downvotes and their attempts to goad you into getting banned or making you turn away from your efforts.
Lol
“Don’t worry about Trump guys, he’s doing great! Keep up the good fight against Joe Biden, he’s the real enemy! I’m totally a real person that 100% came up with this original thought that I 100% believe in on my own.”
Covert bot reference?
Sounds like a rule violation
Sarcasm isn’t rule breaking.
Doesn’t look like sarcasm
It’s retroactive sarcasm.
I’ve fought ignorance for decades, this is no different
The current president is doing terrible. But Trump wouldn’t be president if Biden hadn’t been such a terrible president.
Maybe Biden should have fought for the people he proposed to represent, so that everyone wouldn’t be so desperate to see the system burn down that they were willing to vote for Trump.
And since centrists are determined to keep making the same mistakes, we can’t talk about his mistakes.
Are you talking about steering a ship or randomly dictating ideology?
I’m talking about never again hiding the decline of a president just because he’s selling weapons for your genocide.
the significance here is that one of the 2 major parties attempted to push him as a presidential candidate until his mental condition became publicly unavoidable and would lead to further questions of why the genocide was allowed persist.
this also explains why trump was never prosecuted and barred from becoming the next president and sweeping these questions under the rug to re-frame the focus of discussion on trump is a clear appeal to the pointless and neverending culture war that prevents us from fighting the class struggle that tried to push biden into the presidency and allow trump to take it.
He’s trash, but liberals refusing to see the obvious led to where we are, refusing to hold them accountable led to where we are now
Liberals played their part, that’s true. The problem is people like yourself don’t acknowledge your part in it.
What part? Pointing out that the Democrats clear failures led to Trump being elected?
It seems like people who point out why Trump got elected should be taken seriously instead of being dismissed. Maybe learning and avoiding the obvious mistakes of the past is a good idea.
It’s the part where no one was actually pointing out that the Republicans were the same or worse. I’m not defending the Democrats. I’m just calling you all out for helping Republicans.
Me and a lot of others were pointing out that the Republicans were worse, and that’s why we wanted Democrats to pick a candidate that the voters actually wanted. Your revisionist history is a bad faith attempt to shift blame from those that refuse to learn why they keep losing elections to a fascist party.
I was one of those people by the way. So why are you even arguing with me? And it’s not revisionist history. It’s open history for all to see. The coverage was massively one-sided. So much so that many Palestinians legitimately thought Trump would be better. The only one practicing revisionist history here is you If you deny that. Or the fact that everyone constantly and only was criticizing Biden, if that wasn’t you then why you defending the ones that did? Because the receipts are all over lemmy and the mass media
I’m arguing with you because you are lying. Plenty of people said that the Republicans are worse. I don’t think the coverage was one sided, it’s just that the Democrats couldn’t see how bad their candidate was. Yes, some voters are dumb, and thought Trump would be better, that’s how voters are. Maybe if we could have pointed to a party that was actually trying to fix things, we could have had better ammo to sway them.
I saw plenty of people criticizing Trump AND Biden. Saying that everyone constantly and only criticized Biden is openly false.
Then point out a single lie. Yes plenty of people said it in isolation. It wasn’t enough. Has the same goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And we are here.
If you don’t think the coverage was one-sided that’s literally on you. Pick any day span from the last election cycle and count the average of anti-biden post and compare that to the average of any post criticizing trump or republicans. Even here in leftyville it was wildly skewed. And then understand that the mass media was far far worse
You will not be content until everyone to your left and only your left is silent so your parties can move right like you want.
You’re not to my left. Not by a long shot. Your just ignorant or disingenuous.
Though please do tell. What part of pointing out that the genocide in Palestine wasn’t on the ballot. And that regardless of who we wanted or what we wanted. It was either going to be a democrat or a republican that would win. And we would definitely just like one of them winning more. What part of that makes me economically right wing?
Sounds right wing to me
Aaron Bushnell cast the only vote that matters.
I don’t really believe that centrists have a preference as long as they got their genocide. As far as I’m concerned, this is just gloating that you have two parties representing the interests of the genocidal.
It’s neat how you have to add “economically” because you know that it doesn’t get much further to the right than genocide support.
Be consistent in something other than your hypocrisy. How is someone a Centrist or right wing economically simply by acknowledging the outcomes of right wing systems?
How is genocide support anything but right wing?
How is acknowledging reality, acknowledging the only possible outcomes of a right wing system, supporting anything? Can you be any more cringe?