Bonus points for Marty Makary (a surgeon with no particular experience in infectious disease) being the spokesperson for this. I wonder if he’s the only licensed doctor they could find in the government willing to advocate for this policy?
I fucking hate these assholes. To the point where if I did not have a wife and kid, I would try to do something permanent about them.
I’m one terminal diagnosis away
Is this the freedom they keep talking about?
JFC. And I remember telling people after donvict “won” and before he slithered back into the office that they might want to be sure they were up on their shots, esp. Covid, and some of them told me I was being hysterical - even though I told them this in a calm and reasonable tone.
What the fuck? I had a family member nearly die from Covid. I got it 3 times despite being vaxxed and wound up with white blood cell counts that scared the doctor so much that she thought I had late stage cancer. The vaccine more than likely saved both our lives. Neither of us are over 65. Fuck this country.
Thanks, now I’m actually hoping Pfizer’s lobbying team is able to sway government policy.
Good thing they’ve gotten rid of that “nanny state” they hate so much. 😒
Yeah, but people getting vaccines was bothering the cons. Same with people wearing masks. The cons shaping the world in such a way so that things they chose to politicize and obsess over no longer are bothersome to them is not being the “nanny state”, in their ridiculous redefinition of that term.
Point is, their big rallying cry was that people should be able make their own decision about whether to get the vaccine (or wear a mask), and now that they’re in charge they’re controlling what people can do, the very thing they complained about using terms like “nanny state”. Some repub-controlled places are banning mask-wearing as well so expect that to go national soon.
Well, they sure proved the “you can’t trust the government when it comes to vaccines” message they were trying to put out during the pandemic.
I guess that’s kind of always been the Republican playbook: Complain about something in the government. If it’s not true, wait until you’re in power and make it true.
I wonder how old the people in power are.
From the actual commentary ( https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb2506929 ):
Over the past two seasons, uptake of the annual Covid-19 booster has been poor, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Less than 25% of Americans received boosters each year, ranging from less than 10% of children younger than 12 years of age in the 2024–2025 season to 50% of adults over 75 years old.4 Even health care workers remain hesitant, with less than one third participating in the 2023–2024 fall booster program.5 There may even be a ripple effect: public trust in vaccination in general has declined,6 resulting in a reluctance to vaccinate that is affecting even vital immunization programs such as that for measles–mumps–rubella (MMR) vaccination, which has been clearly established as safe and highly effective. In recent years, reduced MMR vaccination rates have been a growing concern and have contributed to serious illness and deaths from measles. Against this context, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) seeks to provide guidance and foster evidence generation.
Absolutely fucking bullshit spin, trying to redefine “poor” and scapegoat the vaccines themselves for the anti-vaxxers’ disinformation.
While I think this is kinda dumb, there are SO many exceptions it includes almost everyone. I understand they want to generate more data to determine the effectiveness of these vaccines, but this exception list is just pointless. Either open it up to everyone like it was or make the exception list more restrictive if you want to do actual science.
Here is the exception list. Some of these should truly be exceptions, but inactivity? Depression? Granted I’m no doctor but this seems asinine.
Key Underlying Health Conditions Include: • Chronic Diseases:
• Diabetes (type 1 and type 2) • Obesity (BMI >30 kg/m² or >95th percentile in children) • Chronic kidney disease (including those on dialysis) • Chronic liver diseases (such as cirrhosis, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, alcoholic liver disease, autoimmune hepatitis) • Chronic lung diseases (asthma, COPD, bronchiectasis, interstitial lung disease, pulmonary embolism, pulmonary hypertension, cystic fibrosis) • Heart conditions (heart failure, coronary artery disease, cardiomyopathies, etc.) • Cancer (including hematologic malignancies) • Cerebrovascular disease (such as stroke) • Immunocompromised States: • HIV infection • Primary immunodeficiencies • Use of corticosteroids or other immunosuppressive medications • Solid organ or blood stem cell transplantation • Neurologic and Developmental Conditions: • Dementia, Parkinson’s disease • Disabilities (including Down syndrome, cerebral palsy, neurodevelopmental disorders, mobility disabilities, and others) • Mental Health Conditions: • Mood disorders (including depression) • Schizophrenia spectrum disorders • Other Conditions: • Pregnancy and recent pregnancy • Smoking (current or former) • Physical inactivity • TuberculosisAnd the provider giving the shots will probably make you bring paperwork stating you have whatever condition (to cover their ass), which narrows it down to those with the time and money to get it – and I doubt insurance will be required to cover it any more, so that’s another $200-300.
But that’s not even the point, since if the goal is less spreading and mutations, which means the more who get the vax the better, and that means including young and healthy. [narrator: that, of course, is not the goal]
Physical inactivity? What paperwork do you bring for that?
A doctor’s order for the vax or being >= age 65. I’m saying they’ll probably require it. We’ll find out.
Until they actually publish the policy, who knows, right? Just because that was the “high risk” list last time doesn’t mean that the new FDA won’t declare that the only risk factor is having a golf handicap above 3…
My insurance company company said I could no longer get shots at the pharmacy (CVS). I talked to my doctor about it and he told me to go to a different pharmacy. My doctor is usually great but this did not help.
So I didn’t get any shots last fall. Fuck insurance companies.
This appears to be the relevant place to leave feedback, FWIW. I posted a comment this morning!
When does this go into effect?
As a Canadian, I can say as a person with a reasonable government that isn’t trying to control every minutia of my life, the additional threat of a predictable and preventable pandemic five years after all the lessons should have been learned to prevent the next one, vacationing in the USA is even LESS appealing than it already is.
Just a death cult doing death cult things.
