Honestly if it was only about the deadweight it’d be a better idea to work from within rather than without. but the Democratic Party isn’t just deadweight; it’s an angry chimpanzee you need to continually appease at great personal cost that will still punch and kick you, and might even hop off and run away (which you don’t want to happen because reasons). Now imagine you want people to follow you but they also have to carry chimpanzees. That’s the problem with involving the DNC.

Obama exceeds the realm of purism or not; the man is barely any better than Hillary these days. If you think someone like that—who, again, is now known to be a liar by his would be most ardent supporters—can beat Trump, then you haven’t been paying attention. The past three general elections have proven decisively that motivated and politically active voters who support the party platform are crucial to securing victory, and as a matter of strategy Obama doesn’t have any of those.

Obama broke like half or more of his promises, like ending the war on terror, closing Guatanamo Bay and universal healthcare. Maybe you liked that, but “conservatives with ethics”—if we accept their existence, which I don’t—don’t exist in nearly enough numbers to matter, and the people who do matter in this equation absolutely hated it.

The vast majority couldn’t tell you a single ‘dark side’ thing he did.

Maybe, but the progressive activist base does and without that he’s hopeless.

I doubt it. Obama really went into the dark side after his first term, so he’d only be marginally better than your average Dem candidate.

Constitution has nothing to say here really.

Fair enough, but it sure as hell should. How are the people of St. Louis not literally up in arms over this?

What the fuck? How the hell is that constitutional?

They’re saying they want MAGA to keep being antisemitic in the hopes that Zionists will turn against them and use their massive amounts of political power to put a stop to the MAGA takeover of America. Of course the problem with this is that, aside from the fact that Zionists don’t in fact have that kind of power over US politics (they’re just a moderately large lobby with a dedicated activist base), Zionists don’t want Jews living outside Israel to lead fulfilling lives and therefore have no idea with rampant MAGA antisemitism.

Haha no. Zionists want the world outside of Israel to be unsafe for Jews so they’ll immigrate to Israel and help build their dream ethnostate.

More of that please.

The “Biden is too old” crowd isn’t silent, but there’s very little to say about Biden’s age now and there are better reason to oppose Trump than his age.

That’s what should happen, but with the current group of dunces in charge? Absolutely not.

One one hand they definitely benefit from less US soft power and a less efficient US military (because those are often used against them), but on the other hand the US-Russia alliance stands to take away their closest non-proxy ally. It’s a double edged sword, but there are upsides for them.

No? Remember that it was Trump that tore up the nuclear treaty Iran had with, well, everyone and reimposed sanctions. They definitely benefit from America being led by an incompetent, corrupt and above all authoritarian president like Trump, but they sure as hell don’t like him and have no interest in being sabotaged by his brand of “diplomacy”.

hey’re at the point where it’s abandon some social issues and get reelected so they can champion economic issues, or continue to support social issues and lose their seat to a Republican who won’t do either.

This is only the case if you accept the Republican narrative. You don’t need to engage with Republicans or their narrative; just say “I will do X, Y and Z” and in debates and the like hit them where it hurts. It only seems so effective because Democrats are so ineffectual; for an example where it’s not effective you can look at Bernie.

There was an article out there about how protests this year have been consistently twice as many as in 2017. Show him that and then ask him if he’s seen it covered in the news.

there was no point in doing experiments to find out more about the world, the answer was already in the Bible. If you couldn’t see it yet, you needed to study the Bible more.

For the umpteenth time in my life: What the shit Christians? Anyway if that’s the standard we’re working with then no, Islam isn’t like that; in fact the Quran explicitly states that all of God’s creation contains signs of His greatness that must to be pondered. Lemme just…

We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this [Quran] is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things?

Ah, yes, progressive policies like free healthcare, increased minimum wage and wealth taxes don’t matter to the working class.

I know, but here’s the thing: Who cares where their HQ is? They’ll flee to tax havens anyway if they can get away with it, and if they can’t then great, tax the shit out of them. Either way what your money will come from is their actual business in the US, which they can’t move without missing out on… All the business they’re doing in the US.