• Dave@lemmy.nz
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      How much does McDonald’s in Indonesia pay?

      I doubt it’s enough to buy a 25000 euro house. And if you’re talking about McDonald’s in the US then I’m guessing not much is left over after food and rent in order to save the 25k.

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        Never been in USA, but working at McDonald’s here in Belgium while living at your parents, with 2000 euros net from a minimum wage job… Yeah after a year you can buy the house that I showed.

        I’m sure you can work while living with your parents.

        Having the 25k euros is only step one. Afterwards you need to build up capital for passive income when you are in Indonesia.

        The cost of living is very low. the median net worth in Indonesia is 5000 euros. So with your starting capital, you’ll be ahead of the curve.

        With your English, you have some niches you can do. Like working for English speaking companies. Local or from your computer.

        most people that do this, go to Bali. But if you want cheaper areas, the place I showed is also do-able.

        Bali is popular because more people there speak English. For Americans, the Philippines is popular because English is an official language.

        My wife’s indonesian so if she wants to, we’ll go there.

        likely not, because I prefer Belgium. But I’m also not complaining about the high housing prices here in Belgium. I know why they are high. It’s because people want to live here.

        Same reason why housing is more expensive in Bali… People want to live there.

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          Back when I was working, I had a job that paid close to 3x what McDonald’s was paying at the time. I could barely afford a studio apartment. And that was 5-10 years ago, it’s even worse now here in the US.

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            Sucks for immigrants. I’m born rich

            Median net wealth per adult in Belgium is 250k euros. It’s because the housing stock is owned by families living in them. Their kids inherit that.

            “Sucks for immigrants” isn’t even true. Social mobility is great here. Free education for them. But buying a house will indeed be very expensive for them. They have to pay for the current day economy. The economy that is attractive to immigrants.

            Housing will always be expensive in a good economy.

            Look at Singapore, it’s all owned by the country, and it’s expensive as hell.

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              LOL I was born into a middle class family with at least one generation on each side born in the US. Dad worked at the local factory, mom was stay-at-home, had a dog, nice house, and two cars – living the American Dream.

              Then all the factory jobs went away, I couldn’t handle college, and I job hopped for a while and got lucky landing a decent paying gig that lasted for 13 years until I went on disability. Up until then I was barely making ends meet living in a studio apartment with a used hand-me-down car that I got when my grandfather passed away.

              Now I’m on SSDI and live in a subsidized studio apartment and rely on the city bus for transportation to appointments. Living the dream.

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                What’s the value of your parents their house and how many siblings do you have.

                You’re pretty fucked being American in that situation.

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                  No clue what my parents’ house could be worth, they’re still living in it too. I do know they paid something like $30,000 for it in the 70’s and it might be worth 5-10x more than that now – if not more due to inflation. Cars were also $5000 or so then, and now the average price of a car is $30k-$50k on the low end.

                  Due to…several traumatic issues and for my own mental health…living with them isn’t an option and now that I’m on SSDI I can’t really take any of their money or it messes with my SSDI and I went through too much for too long to do anything to risk it within my control (government shenanigans these days might leave me without income and a home but that’s out of my control now). I have one sibling who has a family of their own much like how it was when we were kids but they are struggling to make ends meet in this economy too.

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    I don’t think that they think that. I do think that they think you don’t deserve a house if you work at McDonalds.

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    In reality many people who were boomers lived in shacks, some with no plumbing and dirt floors, until the 60’s when liberal economics began to fully kick in. Reagan, and Republicans have schemed very hard to bring back those "good old days’. Try reading some actual history of that time. Bonus, if you actually talk to a boomer who lived through hard times.

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    Boomer: What?! Just walk into the building, go up to the receptionist or bossman, and demand to be interviewed for a job, and fill out an application form. Refuse to leave without a job offer. They’ll be so impressed by your dedication, they can’t do anything else, but to hire you! What are you waiting for?

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    “when I was your age I made -half- what they’re paying at mcdonalds now, and I paid for a car, a house, college, and and supported my wife and three kids with it!”

    me: blood pressure increases

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      “Yeah and houses were 1/20th of what they are now. Sit down and shut up grandma, you stupid old racist cunt.”

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      When you were my age you could buy a house for less than the deposit on a rented bedroom.

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      I know old americans are the one saying this but this is not at all an americans problem. I work in an office, I make very good money, don’t pay rent amd have no kids so all my money should go to investing right? Well I bought a flat (not even a house) and I pay 80% of my salary (i’ll say it again it’s considered very very good) in a short mortage. It wont last 30 years but fuck if this is not extremely expensive

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    I don’t know why, but I really love the idea of representing Millenials as Shrek and Gen Z as Donkey, and that’s how I’m gonna see us from now on.

    You guys have fun fuckin’ that dragon. I’m gonna go angrily bathe in my filth pool. ❤️

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    It blows my mind that gen z is old enough to be stuck in this mess with us.

    The only chance I ever had to own a home was taking over the one I grew up in from my parents. I couldn’t raise my kids there though. The neighborhood went from being a nice little mining town to meth as currency town.

    Good luck you guys. Maybe y’all can work on the boys following Andrew Tate off of a cliff and get this world going in the right direction.

    Shit, in 40 years us millennials will finally be old enough to hold elected office. Hahahahaha

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    “That’s only a job for high schoolers”

    Also, “fuck you, got mine”

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    How I bought a house: Don’t learn to drive, rent a bedroom for like 8 years to save up a deposit.

    Where I live is considered incredibly cheap by city people.

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    You can get a house working in McDonald’s.

    You just need to be the sole heir of someone who owns a house and either be patient, or proactive.