Yet unlike American led LLM companies Chinese researchers open sourced their model leading to government investment
So the government invests in a model that you can use, including theoretically removing these guardrails. And these models can be used by anyone and the technology within can be built off of, though they do have to be licensed for commercial use
Whereas America pumps 500 billion into the AI industry for closed proprietary models that will serve only the capitalists creating them. If we are investing taxpayer money into concerns like this we should take a note from China and demand the same standards that they are seeing from deepseek. Deepseek is still profit motivated; it is not inherently bad for such a thing. But if you expect a great deal of taxpayer money then your work needs to open and shared with the people, as deepseeks was.
Americans are getting tragically fleeced on this so a handful of people can get loaded. This happens all the time but this time there’s a literal example of what should be occurring happening right alongside. And yet what people end up concerning themselves with is Sinophobia rather than the fact that their government is robbing them blind
Additionally American models still deliver pro capitalist propaganda, just less transparently: ask them about this issue and they will talk about the complexity of “trade secrets” and “proprietary knowledge” needed to justify investment and discouraging the idea of open source models, even though deepseeks existence proves it can be done collaboratively with financial success.
The difference is that deepseeks censorship is clear: “I will not speak about this” can be frustrating but at least it is obvious where the lines are. The former is far more subversive (though to be fair it is also potentially a byproduct of content consumed and not necessarily direction from openai/google/whoever)
Is this real? On account of how LLMs tokenize their input, this can actually be a pretty tricky task for them to accomplish. This is also the reason why it’s hard for them to count the amount of 'R’s in the word ‘Strawberry’.
If your system relies on censoring opposition to it then its probably not very good.
Texas is a country. Now imagine $40 billion a year of various media and disinfo agents repeating that ad nauseum in every place they can literally all the time for nearly 50 years now, all so China can’t take revenge against Japan.
You’d get annoyed and probably ban it since that’s the easiest way to get your enemy to waste money forever.
Taipei is an autonomous region, like Xinjiang or Tibet. As long as they don’t grossly violate federal law they get to stay autonomous.
Ohh yeah lick that Chinese boot, lick it harder. Mmmhhh.
Better China than the West. At least slavery is banned in China.
Why do you have to pick one or the other? Can we not recognize that the governments of western nations and the government of China are all evil institutions that cause far more harm than they ever could benefit?
‘recognize’ is a weird word for ‘delude’.
China raised more people out of poverty than any other government in history, and certainly more than any non government group. The amount of good they’ve done is truly amazing, with absolute minimal harm when honestly compared with their western counterparts.
Would it be better to not have any institution and have automated luxury gay space communism? Sure. But we’re never getting there from a western society.
As long as you’re not Muslim.
China has more mosques than the US, and Xinjiang is majority Muslim.
This is just pure Chinese state propaganda. Taiwan has been an independent country since 1949.
So independent no country in earth recognizes it as such, not even Taiwan.
What do you gain from oppressing others?
Is Texas oppressed?
(Yes, but since you clearly have the brain capacity of a toddler I guess I will be more direct.) What do you gain from oppressing Taiwan?
How is Texas oppressed by being a state?
As far as Taipei, it’s not oppressed, the opposite. It’s allowed to control itself under the guidance of the government, as it always has. That’s the definition of an autonomous region.
Texas: They aren’t even allowed to get basic healthcare there, or have a gender.
Taiwan: sure, that’s why literally nobody complains about CCP presence….oh wait. Are you usually in the habit of denying reality and ignoring your own eyes?
The censorship surrounding taiwan is super lame. You can’t even ask about stuff that happened 50+ years ago. Even if you ask about something else, if somehow the answer includes the world Taiwan, it deletes it.
Wait till you see how fascist US censorship works.
On the up side China has great prosperity because they dont let individuals hoard all the money and they dont allow unregulated free speech that turns countries like the US into INGSOC Oceania
Aren’t you contradicting yourself here? Your first line proclaims the existence of US censorship, but then your next line says that the US is bad because of unregulated free speech. How can there be both censorship and unregulated free speech?
No, I’m not. The unregulated Free speech crowd abused that privilege in order to usher in fascist censorship. The liberals fell for the trap. I’ve taken a lot of crap on this platform from liberals who said that we need to protect all free speech or else the fascists will censor them if they ever gain. power, which is absolutely the most idiotic and tone deaf statement I’ve ever heard.
China is one of the least free places on earth and it has all the same exploitation the West. What upside is there?
There is SO much misunderstanding about China that it’s mind-boggling. Their people own the means of production. Profits are used to meet the needs of the people, keeping wealth from being hoarded by individuals and thus slowing the flow of money. Their governmental structure is FAR more representative of the people than the US’s is. Their expansion of high speed rail has been phenomenal. “All the same exploitation” with none of the problems caused by late stage capitalism. Maybe you should try talking to people who live and work there.
China has billionaires and a stock market. That means the workers are not getting the full value of their labor.
The workers DO NOT own the means of production. The state holds a share in their name but that isn’t the same since the state is totalitarian.
They have most of the same issues as a late stage capitalist nation in that they have the corruption, the wealth inequality, and all the same pollution.
There isn’t so much misinformation on China except for the sources you seem to buy into. China is factually speaking an unfree nation and is one of the least free populations on earth.
Cool story bro
