During Tuesday’s hearing, Gabbard told Warner that the Signal thread didn’t share any classified information but refused to share its contents, or even admit that she was on the chain.

“If it’s not classified, share the texts now,” Warner told Gabbard. “Share it with the committee. You can’t have it both ways. These are important jobs. This is our national security.”

Bitch, we can smell the bullshit 500 miles away.

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    IANAL, but because this was done on a third party encrypted chat app, doesn’t it also violate the federal records act or something? If this was any other administration they would have been launched out of a cannon for that alone, not just the breach in security.

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      Absolutely. Not to mention that organizing a fucking battle plan on a non-government communications system is fucking insane.

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      That’s why they’re using Signal. If this while thing collapses on them, they don’t want written records of their criminal conspiracies.

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      I anal too, but I think as long as they do submit the conversion to the record which they now still can if it didn’t self delete, then they’re covered. They can also declassify all of it and say “see?” like Trump did with the classified documents he stole for Mar a Lago.

      Signal isn’t on an approved list, but the federal records act really just said there will be a council headed by an administrator or whatever to make rules and collect the records. So the current administrator, which could be a vacant seat or a MAGA Hat for all I know right now, would be in charge of this, and probably just hand it over to congress.

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        The messages were set to auto-delete after a week, which imo reduces the likelihood that the messages will be recorded.

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            Yeah, but it’s evidence they weren’t going to be compliant and likely are not compliant in other places.

            Also, I doubt it being recorded by a journalist is compliance either. The government needs to store it to be available later if needed.

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          But the guy in the chat with them immediately informed them that he’d been in there, which gave them time to act

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        No, not for top secret stuff. That needs to be taken to official, secure channels.

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      I’m not personally into the idea of ANAL, but I like how its simultaneously not classified info, and also they’ve forbidden the journalist from sharing it further …because its classified info.

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            This is the start of bullshit arguments intended to drown out any real conversation. It just gets worse from here.

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            Putin wins as usual. Dividing Europe is a Russian goal.

            “Moscow has no interest in a divided Europe.” - Dmitry Peskov

            Moscow would rather have an united Europe but one united in Russia’s interests, not America’s.

            Putin wants NATO gone so he can nibble away at European territory, and he’s been open about that.

            Putin wants NATO gone as it is an existential threat to Russia.

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              You really beleive what Russia says? What were they saying for years before they invaded Ukraine? Didnt they have a treaty saying they wouldnt invade if Ukraine gave up their nukes?

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                Didnt they have a treaty saying they wouldnt invade if Ukraine gave up their nukes?

                The Budapest Memorandum? The ‘agreement’ that was broken when the US sanctioned Belarus in 2013 which was in violation of the agreement and America’s only response was that the Memorandum is “not legally binding” and this action made it null and void in its entirety? Lol.

                Not that it matters as in 2014, the legitimate government of Ukraine was taken down in a coup where far right Neo-Nazi elements of the maidan movement shot their own protestors in a false-flag operation, blamed this on the legitimate government in order to incite public backlash against Yanukovych, then overthrew the legitimate government and then proceeded to commit massacres.

                The false flag operation has been confirmed by several hundred witness testimonies including wounded protestors, 2,000 videos, 6,000 photos, and 30 gigabytes of radio intercepts.

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      Yes. Unless they forwarded them in a secure way immediately. Which there’s like zero chance was the plan.